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GABY DE JONGH: All right.

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It is 11 o'clock, and shall
we go ahead and get started,

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Brianna?

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BRIANNA BLASER: Oop.

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I had to unmute myself.

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One of those days.

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Thanks for catching that, Gaby.

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Thanks to everybody
for joining us.

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For those of you who I don't
know, my name's Brianna Blaser.

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I work with the DO-IT program
at the University of Washington.

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And so we're doing
this webinar as part

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of our ADEPT project,
which is focused

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on increasing the
amount of accessibility

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taught in engineering classes.

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And I think part of
the important thing,

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too, is to make sure what
you're making is accessible,

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but also that when
you're teaching,

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you're doing it accessibly.

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And so today, we have speaking
to us Gaby de Jongh, who's

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an IT accessibility
specialist here at the UW

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who I've seen give this sort
of talk many times before,

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and actually does it in an
interesting manner, which

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sometimes this is not the
most exciting of topics

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to many people, but
critically important.

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So I should also
mention, if you're

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interested in getting involved
in ADEPT in other ways,

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I'll put a little information
about it in the chat,

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and to keep an eye on your email
afterwards for an evaluation

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form.

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That's part of the way we
learn about how good of a job

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we're doing, so I appreciate
you taking the time

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to fill that out.

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So without further ado, I
will turn it over to Gaby.

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GABY DE JONGH: Great.

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Thank you, Brianna.

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Well, I'm actually going to
start off this presentation

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with a brief five-minute video.

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You're going to
see a video of my--

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our colleague, rather.

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Hadi works with both
myself and Brianna

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here at the University
of Washington.

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And he is blind and he
uses assistive technology.

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Specifically, he uses a
screen reader in order

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to interact with a computer.

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And he does a really
great job of explaining

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what it's like for
somebody who uses a screen

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reader to interact
with information

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that is not accessible, and
why accessibility is important.

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So I'm going to go
ahead and switch

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gears for just a little bit.

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[VIDEO PLAYBACK]

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- My name is Hadi
Rangin, and I'm

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a member of IT accessibility
team at the University

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of Washington.

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- Using a screen reader.

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Hadi's an accessibility
expert and he's also a user

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of accessible technology.

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He uses a professional Braille
display and screen reading

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software that reads
everything on the screen.

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- I am blind, and I use this a
screen reader program at home,

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and here, and everywhere.

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A screen reader
program is a software

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that communicates with
the operating system

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and conveys the
information to me.

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- Welcome.

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Blank.

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An accessible page's
design features--

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- Even if you are reading
as a sighted person,

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you do not need every content
at the same speed, right?

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Sometimes, you have
to make a pause

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and then review
what you have read,

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and then digest the information.

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For us, it's the same thing.

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When we are reading, for
example, a normal conversation,

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we can read it very fast.

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And then but when we are
reading technical content,

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then we go a little slower.

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We make more pauses.

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- Accessible University 1.

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- I have slowed down my
screen reader program.

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- Banner.

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Heading level one.

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Graphic, Accessible University.

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Banner end.

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- But if it is, for example,
about email, I can go--

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- Faster, faster,
faster, faster, faster.

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- (RAPID SPEECH)
Navigation region.

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Show shortcuts button.

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- I can go that fast.

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- But it's not enough for
Hadi to have a screen reader.

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Websites must be designed
accessibly in order

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for the screen reader to provide
a full experience of the web

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page.

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- I would like to show you two
pages that are visually pretty

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much consistent, identical.

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But one of them is accessible,
one of them is not accessible.

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You will see in an
inaccessible page

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how difficult it is when those
accessibility features are not

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present.

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- An accessible website.

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- Accessible Universe.

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- That is the accessible version
of a fictional university

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that we have developed here.

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We call that
Accessible University.

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Here, for example, on
this accessible Page,

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I can ask my screen reader to
show me the major component

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of the page.

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- Document Regions.

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Dialog.

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Regions.

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Review.

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- It tells me we have
a banner section--

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- Main menu navigation.

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- We have a main menu section.

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- Main.

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- And the main body.

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- Apply now form.

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- And then there
is another region.

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- Content information.

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- And content information, which
is the same as footer section.

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So assuming the page has
been developed correctly,

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I have a good idea about the
major component of the page.

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- An inaccessible website.

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- Let me now go to
see the inaccessible

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version of this page.

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- Home page.

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Mozilla Firefox.

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Accessible University demo
site, inaccessible version.

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Accessible University.

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- This looks pretty much same
as the other accessible version.

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But here, when I
ask my screen reader

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to convey the major component--

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- No regions were found on this.

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- It said that no region found.

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So for me, practically--

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- Accessible.

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Accessible university.

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- --is that I have to
read from top to bottom.

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- Accessible university.

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Alt tag.

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Untitled.

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No alt tag.

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- And if those accessibility
features are not present,

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everything has the same weight.

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So there is no way for us to
say that where a major section

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starts or where it ends.

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It is really not just the
facts, reading the content.

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It is also about the navigation.

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We have to discover
the page, and then

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that is the most time-consuming
problem because once

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you know where you are,
what you are reading,

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then it is usually fine.

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But the discovery process
or navigation process

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is the most complicated process
in the accessibility field.

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In order to do it, I have
to read from top to bottom,

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whereas in the
accessible version,

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I could easily see what
the major components were,

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and then select the desired
one, and move to that section

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quickly.

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- Menus.

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Heading list.

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Dialog.

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Heading list.

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- Headings is also a
means to get information

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about the structure
of the content.

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It gives me a good
understanding,

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good overview about the major or
minor component of the content.

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So I see that here.

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- Welcome 2.

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Featured story slideshow 2.

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Accessible University 1.

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- It said, Accessible University
itself is a heading 1,

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and under that, we have--

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- Featured stories.

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- Featured story,
which is a heading 2.

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It automatically
conveys the information

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that this section is a
subsection of the heading

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About.

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You will see also
that they'll overall

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get an outline of the page and
the major sections of that.

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That is the difference between
accessible and inaccessible.

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[END PLAYBACK]

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GABY DE JONGH: OK.

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Hold on just a second here.

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So I wanted to continue on
with a little activity to kind

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of drive home a little bit more
about the difference, or about

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the importance, rather, of
adding structure, not only just

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having text to speech ability,
but also adding structure.

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So I have an example
of a course syllabus

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for our fictional university,
Accessible University.

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And I have an audio recording
of a screen reader reading

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this information out loud.

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And you can do
one of two things.

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You can either close your eyes
and listen to the content,

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or you can follow along as the
information is being read out

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loud.

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SCREEN READER: Word.

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Document 1.

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Window.

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Page 1 content.

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Edit text insertion
at beginning of text.

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Introduction to physics.

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Course syllabus.

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Textbook.

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Our sole text for
this course will

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be Introduction to Physics,
Second Edition, authored

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by the instructor.

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Course objectives-- to
offer students exposure

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to basic principles of physics.

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To provide students with rich,
thought-provoking discussions

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during lecture sessions.

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To provide students with
experiential learning

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opportunities during
laboratory sessions.

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Class schedule.

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Week.

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Topic.

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Reading assignment.

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1.

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Course Introduction.

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Chapter 1.

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2.

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Inertia, equilibrium, kinematic.

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Chapters 2, 3.

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3.

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Newton's Laws.

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Vectors.

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Momentum.

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Energy.

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Chapters 4, 7.

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4.

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Matter.

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Elasticity.

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Scaling.

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Chapters 8, 10.

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5.

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Wave kinematics.

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Sound.

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Electricity.

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Magnetism.

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Induction.

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Chapter 11, 15.

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6.

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Light.

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Reflection and refraction.

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Emission.

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Chapters 15, 18.

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7.

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Review.

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Final exam.

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Grades-- misspelled grades--

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will be assigned on
a 10-point scale.

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90 to 100 is an A. 80
to 89 is a B, et cetera.

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Homework, exams, and projects
will be weighted as follows.

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Homework.

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Exams.

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Projects.

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1.

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2.

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Final.

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1.

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2.

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Final.

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15%.

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20%.

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10%.

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10%.

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15%.

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Percent sign misspelled.

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Program [INAUDIBLE].

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Misspelled.

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New line.

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GABY DE JONGH: OK, great.

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So I've actually put up
a verbatim transcript

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of the audio that we just
heard of the screen reader

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reading that information.

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And I just have some--

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these are mostly rhetorical
questions for you.

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But I just would like to know,
how many objectives are there

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in this course?

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Are you able to find
that information

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in the textual transcript
that we were listening to?

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What is the reading
assignment for week 3?

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And how much is the
final project worth?

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So this is an
example where we do

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have a certain level
of accessibility,

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where we do have
text-to-speech, but there

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is no structure in this
document, which does not

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allow someone like Hadi to jump
between the different sections

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that we were able to visually
view in the previous slide that

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had the syllabi on there.

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So what we're going
to talk about is,

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how can you increase
your accessibility

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in a few simple steps?

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But before that, I wanted
to talk a little bit

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about some misconceptions
of accessibility.

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Many people think,
or many people just

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have a basic lack
of understanding

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of what accessibility is.

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How do you make
something accessible?

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How do you create something
that is accessible?

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And that's largely due, in
part, because accessibility

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can seem like an
abstract concept,

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and it's not really taught.

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A lot of people don't really do
onboarding for using the tools

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that many universities actually
provide to faculty, staff,

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and students on how to
create accessible materials.

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We, at the University
of Washington,

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have actually had
a really big push

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about trying to get faculty,
staff, and students on boarded

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on using the products
that are available to them

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and create accessible content.

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It's also a
misconception that it's

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somebody else's responsibility.

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It requires maybe special
skills or special tools

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in order to make
something accessible.

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That's actually a
big misconception.

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A lot of the tools that are
available to many universities

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and institutions
out there already

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have the ability to create
accessible information.

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And finally, some folks
think that accessibility

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is kind of like a last minute
final touch-up, something

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that you do at the end in order
to make something accessible.

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But really, what is important
is to consider accessibility

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throughout the product
development cycle.

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And we'll talk about what things
to look for as we move forward

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in this presentation.

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I'd like to talk a little
bit about four principles

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of accessibility, as this speaks
more to the structure of why

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this is important.

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First of all, all
forms of communication

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require input into the
brain via at least one sense

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of the body--

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either your eyes, or your ears.

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And then you need
to be able to input

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that information
into their brain

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so that they can process it.

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If the information can't get
there, then it's inaccessible.

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So consequently, the
content of the information

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needs to be presented
in different ways.

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So if you have
somebody who is not

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able to see text information, is
there an equivalent for nontext

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information?

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So for example, images.

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Somebody can't read
the text, or there's

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no text equivalent
for that image,

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how are you going
to incorporate that?

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Another example is people
who cannot hear audio or see

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a video have different
alternatives, as well.

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Operable is the next
principle of accessibility.

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Not everybody uses a
standard keyboard and mouse

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to access information.

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Some folks use
alternative devices that

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accommodate their disabilities.

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Mouse-dependent content can be
inaccessible to a person who

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can't use a standard mouse,
due to tremors of the hand,

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insufficient fine motor
control, or even lack of hands

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altogether.

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So functionality needs to be
made available from a keyboard

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or from another adaptive device.

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Operability also means
that users can easily

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navigate, find
content, and determine

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where they are
within the content

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that they're navigating around.

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And also, you want to make
sure that the content does not

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create seizures.

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The third principle
is understandable.

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Let's say that the content
is perceivable and operable

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by users of all
kinds of abilities,

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but it's understandable
to none of them.

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Does that make the
content accessible?

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No, of course it doesn't.

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Understandability
can be just as big

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of a barrier to
accessibility as any

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of the more technical issues.

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So you do want to
make sure that text

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is readable and understandable,
that the content appears

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and operates in predictable
ways for those users,

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and that they're helped to
avoid and correct mistakes.

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Lastly, the fourth
principle is robust.

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Not everybody uses the
same technologies now,

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nor will they in the future.

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And people use all
different kinds

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of operating systems, different
browsers, different versions

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of browsers, so forth and so on.

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And some people have
advanced features enabled,

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while others have those
features turned off.

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That content needs to be
compatible with future

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and current user tools.

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So with that, it is possible
within most management systems

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to have a
fully-accessible course,

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and it's also possible
within all management systems

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to have a
fully-inaccessible course.

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So we're going to talk about
just five simple things

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that you can do to ensure,
or at least increase,

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the accessibility
of your projects.

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And we'll break down
these five steps

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in a little bit
more detail here.

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So step one is use headings.

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This happens to be a
screenshot of Canvas,

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which is the learning management
system that we use here

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at the University of Washington.

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And Canvas is actually an
accessible learning management

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system.

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And the reason why I have
this screenshot on here

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is because with this, you're
able to create headings

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in a logical manner.

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If you'll notice
the red circle that

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is circled around
the dropdown menu,

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the individual has the
ability to associate

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the text within this
particular text box

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here as either regular
paragraph text,

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or header one, header
two, header three.

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I'm sorry, not header one.

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Header one is actually
it's going to be

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up here where it says Welcome.

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Header one is always the
top tier of navigability,

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so that's what's going to be
your very top function right

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there.

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And then everything
else follows suit there.

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So the reason why
headings are so important

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is because good
heading structure

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helps people without
eyesight understand

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how the document is organized.

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Screen readers and Braille users
can also jump between headings,

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as Hadi mentioned
in the video before,

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which makes navigation more
efficient than if there

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were no headings.

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Hadi talked about having
to listen to a document

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from beginning to end and
not being able to navigate

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within that document.

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Those of us who don't have
any visual disabilities,

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we do something
similar, as well.

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We usually look over
the document itself,

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look at the title, maybe look
at the different chapters,

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look at the weight of the
different heading levels,

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maybe look at the table
of contents or the index,

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maybe review some of the images
within that document itself

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before we go in,
and dive right in,

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and start reading from
the very beginning.

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So those headings must
be in a logical order.

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You want to make
sure that you're

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starting with H1 for
the title, and then

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use H2, H3, and so forth
so on in a logical manner.

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Doing so preserves the
tab order and allows

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folks who do not use a
conventional keyboard

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to navigate within the
document a lot easier.

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And to accomplish this outside
of a learning management

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system, you can use the Styles
pane in Microsoft Office.

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I'll show you an
example here later on

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if we have some time of
what the Styles pane looks

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like in Microsoft Office.

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But there are already
predefined styles in there

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where you can already
choose heading levels,

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and those will act
as anchor points

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within that document, which
will allow the screen reader

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users to move back and
forth within that document.

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So for example, if Hadi wanted
to reread the section on What

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is Grading, if that section
had an accurate heading level

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associated with it,
Had could call up

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a menu that has all the
different heading levels

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for that document
and jump directly

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to that specific place
within the document.

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The next step is a adding
alternative text to images.

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So this is, again, part of the
four aspects of accessibility.

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You want to make sure
that you have text

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elements for nontext formats.

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So within Microsoft Word,
you do have the ability

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to add alternative text under
the Picture Formatting tab.

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And writing alternative text is
a bit of an art and a science.

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But essentially,
the main takeaway

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here is, if you're adding an
image or a logo to a document,

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there's probably a reason why.

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And best practices
for adding alt text

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is, what is the key
takeaway of that image?

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And that's how you're going to
describe your alternative text.

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Now, there are cases where
you may have bar charts, pie

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charts, or flow charts, or
some more high-level science

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information.

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And I do have a resource for
that on how to accurately write

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alternative text for such
things as charts and graphs

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so that the user can
understand that information.

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So just as kind of a
review, alternative text

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does equal equivalent
communication.

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It helps folks who can't
see the screen understand

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what's important in
images and other visuals.

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The alt text must provide
contextual information

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about the image,
graph, or figure.

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And this is actually a
really important part.

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Sometimes we include images
in our documents for whatever

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reason, maybe for
decorative reasons, or just

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to give your eyes a break
when you're reading.

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Those kinds of images must
be marked as decorative

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so that the screen reader
will skip those images

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and then the user can just go on
and continue reading the text.

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I've actually had
many conversations

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with screen reader users who
wish that all images would

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be marked as decorative
because it is very, very

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disruptive to
their concentration

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and the comprehension when those
images do come into play when

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they're reading long documents.

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So it's kind of a
judgment call there

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to being judicial as
to the number of images

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that you're including
in your projects.

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Step three is adding
captions to videos.

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And if you'll notice, the
video that I showed you

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earlier with Hadi, that's an
example of a captioned video.

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And there are many
reasons why we would

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want to caption our video.

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For example, Hadi is a nonnative
American English speaker,

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and so some folks may have
difficulty understanding him.

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So having the
captions there would

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benefit somebody who doesn't
necessarily have a disability,

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but benefits them in
the sense they're still

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able to perceive
the information.

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This is also true
for individuals

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who have hearing disabilities.

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Captions are very
helpful in that regard.

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There is a difference
between closed captions

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and open captions.

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Closed captions can be turned
on and off by the user,

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while open captions are kind of
burned into the video itself.

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So an example of
open captions would

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be if you're watching a
movie and there happens

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to be a foreign language
component to that,

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and that foreign
language shows up

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in English subtitles
on the bottom, that

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is an example of open captions.

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Audio descriptions are
additional audio information

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in a video for individuals
who have visual disabilities.

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So audio descriptions
give additional contextual

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information to individuals
who cannot see the audio,

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but describe what is happening
in that particular scene.

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So depending upon
your video, you

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may want to consider adding
audio descriptions for folks

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who have visual disabilities
as an added accessibility

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accommodation.

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And if you're not able to have
a closed caption for your video,

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you're also able to
create a transcript.

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Actually, YouTube makes
it super easy to create

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closed captions and a
transcript automatically,

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and it does so using
speech recognition.

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But you have to understand that
that speech recognition is not

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100%, so it's completely
computer-generated.

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So you do need to go back
and review the transcript,

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and make sure that the
information is accurately

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communicated or
accurately transcribed.

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This is particularly
true for content

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that is scientific
in nature, has

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medical jargon, or legal
jargon, or scientific jargon.

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So those are ways to
increase the accessibility

00:25:17.650 --> 00:25:18.275 align:middle line:90%
of your videos.

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Step four is to make
sure that you're

00:25:24.430 --> 00:25:27.270 align:middle line:90%
uploading accessible content.

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This is a screenshot of Canvas,
which is, again, our learning

00:25:31.830 --> 00:25:34.530 align:middle line:84%
management system that we use
at the University of Washington.

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And last year, we acquired
a plugin called Ally, which

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is actually through Blackboard.

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And what Ally does is it
gives an accessibility

00:25:45.120 --> 00:25:49.140 align:middle line:84%
score of the documents that
are uploaded to the learning

00:25:49.140 --> 00:25:50.040 align:middle line:90%
management system.

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And you can kind of see that
towards the right-hand side

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of the screen there.

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There's a form field there
called Accessibility,

00:25:57.780 --> 00:25:59.132 align:middle line:90%
and there's different dials.

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And those dials come
in different colors.

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You'll see a green
one, there's a red one,

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and then there's a yellow one.

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Green means that the document
is high accessibility, red means

00:26:09.390 --> 00:26:11.730 align:middle line:84%
the document is not
accessible at all,

00:26:11.730 --> 00:26:14.400 align:middle line:84%
and yellow means that there is
some accessibility features,

00:26:14.400 --> 00:26:18.960 align:middle line:84%
but it's not completely
100% accessible.

00:26:18.960 --> 00:26:28.320 align:middle line:84%
Within Canvas and Ally, if you
click on these little dials,

00:26:28.320 --> 00:26:30.300 align:middle line:84%
especially on the red
ones, it will walk you

00:26:30.300 --> 00:26:31.758 align:middle line:84%
through-- it will
tell you that you

00:26:31.758 --> 00:26:36.030 align:middle line:84%
do have issues that preclude
accessibility and asks you

00:26:36.030 --> 00:26:37.260 align:middle line:90%
if you want to fix them.

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And it will actually
walk you through,

00:26:40.110 --> 00:26:43.410 align:middle line:84%
step by step, of the process of
how to fix those issues, which

00:26:43.410 --> 00:26:46.380 align:middle line:84%
is pretty cool, which is one of
the reasons why we bought Ally.

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And we can also pull
reports for everybody

00:26:51.600 --> 00:26:55.610 align:middle line:84%
who's using this system
to kind of look and see,

00:26:55.610 --> 00:26:58.170 align:middle line:84%
have they improved their
accessibility scores

00:26:58.170 --> 00:27:00.730 align:middle line:84%
of the files that
they have uploaded?

00:27:00.730 --> 00:27:04.010 align:middle line:84%
So it turns things into like
a little game, or at least

00:27:04.010 --> 00:27:07.830 align:middle line:84%
to give some folks a motivation
to increase the accessibility

00:27:07.830 --> 00:27:08.940 align:middle line:90%
of their documents.

00:27:08.940 --> 00:27:14.440 align:middle line:84%
And it seems to be working, so
we're pretty happy about that.

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But I wanted to include here
that accessible content needs

00:27:22.350 --> 00:27:25.590 align:middle line:84%
to be created in a way
that communicates structure

00:27:25.590 --> 00:27:27.390 align:middle line:90%
to assistive technology.

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And examples of things
that have good structure--

00:27:32.400 --> 00:27:34.170 align:middle line:84%
for example, a
table of contents.

00:27:34.170 --> 00:27:38.760 align:middle line:84%
In Microsoft Word, there is a
Table of Contents Builder which

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creates links
within your document

00:27:41.250 --> 00:27:43.650 align:middle line:84%
to certain chapters
or subchapters,

00:27:43.650 --> 00:27:45.540 align:middle line:84%
and it's all
completely accessible.

00:27:45.540 --> 00:27:54.270 align:middle line:84%
So Microsoft has done a lot
within their software tool

00:27:54.270 --> 00:27:57.120 align:middle line:84%
to make sure that when
you're creating documents,

00:27:57.120 --> 00:28:00.660 align:middle line:84%
using the methods
that you already know

00:28:00.660 --> 00:28:04.110 align:middle line:84%
is going to create an
accessible document.

00:28:04.110 --> 00:28:07.230 align:middle line:84%
Again, we're going to talk
a little bit about headings,

00:28:07.230 --> 00:28:11.420 align:middle line:84%
making sure that you're using
your heading levels correctly.

00:28:11.420 --> 00:28:14.310 align:middle line:84%
And also using
your lists, ordered

00:28:14.310 --> 00:28:15.870 align:middle line:90%
lists versus unordered lists.

00:28:15.870 --> 00:28:19.550 align:middle line:84%
An ordered list is a list that
has either 1, 2, 3, or A, B,

00:28:19.550 --> 00:28:22.650 align:middle line:90%
C. Unordered list uses bullets.

00:28:22.650 --> 00:28:24.540 align:middle line:84%
And those are highly
accessible, as well,

00:28:24.540 --> 00:28:25.920 align:middle line:84%
and easy for screen
readers users

00:28:25.920 --> 00:28:29.070 align:middle line:90%
to understand and identify.

00:28:29.070 --> 00:28:31.350 align:middle line:84%
I haven't really
talked about tables,

00:28:31.350 --> 00:28:33.670 align:middle line:84%
but I know that tables
are used quite a bit

00:28:33.670 --> 00:28:36.600 align:middle line:84%
in document creation
and web creation.

00:28:36.600 --> 00:28:39.870 align:middle line:84%
You want to make sure that your
table headers are identified

00:28:39.870 --> 00:28:44.750 align:middle line:84%
so that the table is announced
accurately to the user.

00:28:44.750 --> 00:28:48.990 align:middle line:84%
In the exercise that we
were listening to before,

00:28:48.990 --> 00:28:52.200 align:middle line:84%
it was just reading the
information left to right

00:28:52.200 --> 00:28:57.210 align:middle line:84%
and wasn't really associating
the table header information.

00:28:57.210 --> 00:28:59.490 align:middle line:84%
It really should
have been announced

00:28:59.490 --> 00:29:02.550 align:middle line:84%
what chapter you're reading
first, for which week,

00:29:02.550 --> 00:29:03.360 align:middle line:90%
from which book.

00:29:03.360 --> 00:29:05.190 align:middle line:84%
And you are able
to do that, as long

00:29:05.190 --> 00:29:08.040 align:middle line:84%
as you can identify
your table headers.

00:29:08.040 --> 00:29:11.670 align:middle line:84%
And I do have resources for how
do you identify table headers,

00:29:11.670 --> 00:29:15.180 align:middle line:84%
so I'll make sure that you
have those resources for you.

00:29:15.180 --> 00:29:19.290 align:middle line:84%
Again, making sure that you have
alternative text for images.

00:29:19.290 --> 00:29:26.400 align:middle line:84%
And if you have content
that is not English,

00:29:26.400 --> 00:29:29.250 align:middle line:84%
you want to make sure that
you identify the language as

00:29:29.250 --> 00:29:33.990 align:middle line:90%
such within your document.

00:29:33.990 --> 00:29:36.990 align:middle line:84%
Screen reader users and
assistive technology users

00:29:36.990 --> 00:29:45.660 align:middle line:84%
have the ability to install
and download foreign language

00:29:45.660 --> 00:29:48.330 align:middle line:84%
dictionaries for their
assistive technology

00:29:48.330 --> 00:29:54.320 align:middle line:84%
so it will announce in
the language accurately.

00:29:54.320 --> 00:29:59.290 align:middle line:84%
For example, if you have
a Spanish document--

00:29:59.290 --> 00:30:01.450 align:middle line:84%
so the default for
Microsoft Word,

00:30:01.450 --> 00:30:03.480 align:middle line:84%
if you're using it
in the United States,

00:30:03.480 --> 00:30:05.490 align:middle line:84%
is that it's going
to code information

00:30:05.490 --> 00:30:08.830 align:middle line:84%
in that document as
an English document.

00:30:08.830 --> 00:30:11.240 align:middle line:84%
But if you have some
Spanish words in there,

00:30:11.240 --> 00:30:13.410 align:middle line:84%
the assistive
technology is going

00:30:13.410 --> 00:30:17.610 align:middle line:84%
to announce the Spanish
content in a very

00:30:17.610 --> 00:30:21.900 align:middle line:84%
bad, computer-generated
English accent.

00:30:21.900 --> 00:30:28.380 align:middle line:84%
So if you have that downloaded--
that Spanish dictionary

00:30:28.380 --> 00:30:31.440 align:middle line:84%
onto your assistive technology,
and it is coded correctly

00:30:31.440 --> 00:30:33.600 align:middle line:84%
within the document, it
will actually announce it

00:30:33.600 --> 00:30:36.600 align:middle line:90%
accurately out loud.

00:30:36.600 --> 00:30:38.910 align:middle line:90%
Other things to consider.

00:30:38.910 --> 00:30:43.080 align:middle line:84%
We're talking mainly
about HTML, Word, and PDF

00:30:43.080 --> 00:30:45.950 align:middle line:90%
as our authoring sources.

00:30:45.950 --> 00:30:47.760 align:middle line:84%
And each of these
formats include

00:30:47.760 --> 00:30:51.270 align:middle line:84%
support for accessibility,
but some formats

00:30:51.270 --> 00:30:53.950 align:middle line:84%
are better at supporting
certain features.

00:30:53.950 --> 00:30:58.820 align:middle line:84%
For example, math content is
very much supported in HTML

00:30:58.820 --> 00:31:02.130 align:middle line:84%
and somewhat supported in Word,
but absolutely not supported

00:31:02.130 --> 00:31:03.180 align:middle line:90%
in PDF.

00:31:03.180 --> 00:31:06.870 align:middle line:84%
So for example, we have a
project at the University

00:31:06.870 --> 00:31:11.795 align:middle line:84%
where we're remediating a bunch
of documents for departments,

00:31:11.795 --> 00:31:13.920 align:middle line:84%
and I've been working with
the calculus department.

00:31:13.920 --> 00:31:16.560 align:middle line:84%
And they have a bunch
of old worksheets

00:31:16.560 --> 00:31:20.070 align:middle line:84%
that they would like their
students to practice on.

00:31:20.070 --> 00:31:22.590 align:middle line:84%
However, they
converted those to PDF,

00:31:22.590 --> 00:31:24.630 align:middle line:84%
and PDF just does
not have the ability

00:31:24.630 --> 00:31:28.740 align:middle line:84%
to announce mathematical
computations accurately,

00:31:28.740 --> 00:31:31.860 align:middle line:84%
whereas in HTML
and Word, they do.

00:31:31.860 --> 00:31:34.170 align:middle line:84%
So those are some
things to consider.

00:31:34.170 --> 00:31:39.540 align:middle line:84%
Also, when we're talking
about PDF documents,

00:31:39.540 --> 00:31:42.400 align:middle line:84%
there's two ways to
create PDF documents.

00:31:42.400 --> 00:31:44.810 align:middle line:84%
They're not necessarily
created out of the blue.

00:31:44.810 --> 00:31:49.640 align:middle line:84%
Either you're scanning a
chapter from a hardcopy book

00:31:49.640 --> 00:31:53.120 align:middle line:84%
and it creates a PDF
document, or you've

00:31:53.120 --> 00:31:56.720 align:middle line:84%
created a source
document and have either

00:31:56.720 --> 00:31:59.930 align:middle line:84%
exported that or saved
that as a PDF document.

00:31:59.930 --> 00:32:07.070 align:middle line:84%
So in the latter example, if
you're using a software package

00:32:07.070 --> 00:32:09.440 align:middle line:84%
in order to produce
a PDF document,

00:32:09.440 --> 00:32:12.740 align:middle line:84%
does that authoring tool
of the source document

00:32:12.740 --> 00:32:16.760 align:middle line:84%
allow you to create
accessible content?

00:32:16.760 --> 00:32:20.060 align:middle line:84%
Well, Microsoft Word does
have an accessibility checker,

00:32:20.060 --> 00:32:21.890 align:middle line:84%
which does allow
the author to make

00:32:21.890 --> 00:32:24.390 align:middle line:90%
the document more accessible.

00:32:24.390 --> 00:32:26.480 align:middle line:84%
The second thing
you need to consider

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is, does the author know how to
create the accessible content?

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So the example
for that would be,

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are they using styles in Word?

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Are they applying headings?

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Are the headings created
just by simply changing

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the font size and the weight?

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It's a lot easier to create
an accessible source document

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and export that to an
accessible PDF document

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than it is to fix
the PDF document

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and make that accessible.

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That really does
require a lot of skill.

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And then the last step
is just to ask questions

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about the accessibility
of certain features

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before selecting those tools.

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So for example,
this is a screenshot

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of a discussion board.

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And at the very top here, I
can see that Teryl Thompson has

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posted the discussion,
and then right

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underneath that, I can see
that Aaron Cannon has posted

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a response to the discussion,
and then underneath that,

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I can see Dana Gray has posted
a response to Aaron's response,

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and then underneath that, I can
see that Dana Gray has actually

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posted a response to
the original question.

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And the reason why I can
tell that is visually.

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I can look here that Dana's
first entry is actually

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indented a little
bit, and it seems

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to be connected to
Aaron's original post,

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so it gives me a good
visual indication

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that these are
responses to the post.

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Now, is that information
conveyed accurately and clearly

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to screen reader users?

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So those are things
that you may want

00:34:11.580 --> 00:34:13.344 align:middle line:90%
to take into consideration.

00:34:13.344 --> 00:34:16.010 align:middle line:90%


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This is a screenshot
of, I believe,

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an old Adobe conferencing
source that may or may not

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be used currently.

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But I wanted to show
this because there's

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a lot going on here.

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So you can see on
the right-hand side,

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you have your
PowerPoint presentation.

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Kind of in the middle here,
you have your chat room,

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and you've got some people
discussing what's going on.

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And then off to the left here,
at the upper-right corner,

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you have a head shot of the
person giving the presentation,

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and then you have a list
of all the participants.

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And then back on the
right-hand side here,

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below the PowerPoint
presentation,

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you have some ads and stuff.

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This can be very
visually distracting

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for somebody who has learning
disabilities or anxiety.

00:35:08.830 --> 00:35:11.410 align:middle line:84%
There's just a
lot going on here.

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So there's a couple of
things that you may want

00:35:13.480 --> 00:35:15.640 align:middle line:90%
to take into consideration.

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As the person who is
giving a presentation,

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do you have the ability
to turn on and off some

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of these sections to
make it less busy?

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Does the user have the
ability to turn those sections

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on and off?

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So those are types
of things that you

00:35:29.890 --> 00:35:31.930 align:middle line:84%
may want to take into
consideration, as well.

00:35:31.930 --> 00:35:34.640 align:middle line:90%


00:35:34.640 --> 00:35:36.550 align:middle line:90%
And collaborative tools.

00:35:36.550 --> 00:35:39.280 align:middle line:84%
This is a screenshot
of Google Docs.

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At the University of Washington
we use Google products a lot--

00:35:42.600 --> 00:35:45.380 align:middle line:84%
Google Drive, Google Docs,
Google Sheets, Google Slides--

00:35:45.380 --> 00:35:48.910 align:middle line:84%
as they're great
for collaboration.

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And you do have the ability
to assign alternative text

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to images in Google Docs.

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You also have the ability
to assign heading levels

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in Google Docs, so
it is a great way

00:36:00.340 --> 00:36:03.200 align:middle line:84%
of creating accessible
information.

00:36:03.200 --> 00:36:06.010 align:middle line:84%
However, within
Google applications,

00:36:06.010 --> 00:36:09.595 align:middle line:84%
you also have the ability to
export to Microsoft products.

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There's a bit of an issue
there, because Google does not

00:36:18.820 --> 00:36:23.100 align:middle line:90%
export from their product--

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it does not map to an
accessible product.

00:36:26.530 --> 00:36:29.440 align:middle line:84%
So if you're creating
a Google Document

00:36:29.440 --> 00:36:32.530 align:middle line:84%
and you export that
to PDF, there's

00:36:32.530 --> 00:36:36.010 align:middle line:84%
no way that you can create
an accessible PDF from Google

00:36:36.010 --> 00:36:42.100 align:middle line:84%
Documents, unless you have a
special plugin called Grackle.

00:36:42.100 --> 00:36:44.800 align:middle line:84%
That's a separate
workshop altogether.

00:36:44.800 --> 00:36:48.850 align:middle line:84%
So the other problem
with Google Documents

00:36:48.850 --> 00:36:51.250 align:middle line:84%
is that I mentioned
earlier that you

00:36:51.250 --> 00:36:55.210 align:middle line:84%
do have the ability to
export to Microsoft products.

00:36:55.210 --> 00:36:58.170 align:middle line:84%
When you create an
accessible Google Doc

00:36:58.170 --> 00:37:03.880 align:middle line:84%
version using heading levels
and assigning alt text,

00:37:03.880 --> 00:37:07.720 align:middle line:84%
Google Docs is still
pretty much in its infancy,

00:37:07.720 --> 00:37:10.180 align:middle line:84%
and the developers
haven't really

00:37:10.180 --> 00:37:14.260 align:middle line:84%
perfected that to the point
where it will role map.

00:37:14.260 --> 00:37:18.370 align:middle line:84%
If you output that from a
Google Doc to a Word document,

00:37:18.370 --> 00:37:24.070 align:middle line:84%
those markups will
not be included,

00:37:24.070 --> 00:37:29.110 align:middle line:84%
just because Google Docs
has not incorporated that

00:37:29.110 --> 00:37:30.580 align:middle line:90%
into their product yet.

00:37:30.580 --> 00:37:33.630 align:middle line:84%
So it's great when
you're working

00:37:33.630 --> 00:37:35.510 align:middle line:90%
as a collaborative tool.

00:37:35.510 --> 00:37:37.210 align:middle line:84%
But when you have
a finished product,

00:37:37.210 --> 00:37:38.710 align:middle line:84%
then you want to
have somebody who's

00:37:38.710 --> 00:37:41.020 align:middle line:84%
going to be in charge of
that finished product,

00:37:41.020 --> 00:37:44.530 align:middle line:84%
export that to a
Microsoft Word document,

00:37:44.530 --> 00:37:50.710 align:middle line:84%
and then run the accessibility
tools within Microsoft Word

00:37:50.710 --> 00:37:55.770 align:middle line:84%
in order to make sure that the
final product is accessible.

00:37:55.770 --> 00:37:57.190 align:middle line:90%
So let's see.

00:37:57.190 --> 00:37:59.220 align:middle line:90%
So that is all I have for you.

00:37:59.220 --> 00:38:01.860 align:middle line:90%
I've got some resources here.

00:38:01.860 --> 00:38:06.890 align:middle line:84%
So this is a link to making
your Word documents accessible.

00:38:06.890 --> 00:38:10.475 align:middle line:84%
So I'm going to go
ahead and click on this.

00:38:10.475 --> 00:38:13.310 align:middle line:90%
It just opened up over here.

00:38:13.310 --> 00:38:15.590 align:middle line:84%
So this gives a little
bit more information

00:38:15.590 --> 00:38:18.470 align:middle line:84%
from Microsoft
about best practices

00:38:18.470 --> 00:38:20.960 align:middle line:84%
for making your Word
documents accessible.

00:38:20.960 --> 00:38:27.140 align:middle line:84%
It's a lot about what we talked
about in my presentation.

00:38:27.140 --> 00:38:33.050 align:middle line:84%
Let's see, making sure that you
have accessible text format.

00:38:33.050 --> 00:38:35.120 align:middle line:84%
So it gives some really
good information there.

00:38:35.120 --> 00:38:37.940 align:middle line:90%


00:38:37.940 --> 00:38:39.710 align:middle line:90%
Let's see what's here.

00:38:39.710 --> 00:38:42.495 align:middle line:90%


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BRIANNA BLASER: I encourage
folks, if you have questions,

00:38:44.870 --> 00:38:49.820 align:middle line:84%
you can type them into the chat
so that Gaby can answer them.

00:38:49.820 --> 00:38:51.660 align:middle line:90%
GABY DE JONGH: Yeah.

00:38:51.660 --> 00:38:53.520 align:middle line:84%
And then I've also
included a link here

00:38:53.520 --> 00:38:58.180 align:middle line:84%
for effective practices for
description of science content.

00:38:58.180 --> 00:39:00.210 align:middle line:84%
And I'm going to go
ahead and click on that.

00:39:00.210 --> 00:39:02.640 align:middle line:84%
And that just gives
really great examples--

00:39:02.640 --> 00:39:05.640 align:middle line:90%


00:39:05.640 --> 00:39:13.930 align:middle line:84%
let's see here-- of how you
can explain a bar chart.

00:39:13.930 --> 00:39:17.610 align:middle line:84%
So this gives an example
of a bar chart, guidelines

00:39:17.610 --> 00:39:24.720 align:middle line:84%
for how to write the
descriptions for a bar chart,

00:39:24.720 --> 00:39:27.750 align:middle line:84%
and then this is the
example of how this bar

00:39:27.750 --> 00:39:29.053 align:middle line:90%
chart would be described.

00:39:29.053 --> 00:39:31.220 align:middle line:84%
So it gives some really
good information about that.

00:39:31.220 --> 00:39:33.870 align:middle line:90%


00:39:33.870 --> 00:39:36.290 align:middle line:90%
So that's all I have.

00:39:36.290 --> 00:39:39.210 align:middle line:84%
And if you have any
more questions for me,

00:39:39.210 --> 00:39:41.690 align:middle line:84%
you can feel free to
email me at gabyd@uw.edu.

00:39:41.690 --> 00:39:46.880 align:middle line:90%


00:39:46.880 --> 00:39:47.650 align:middle line:90%
Sorry.

00:39:47.650 --> 00:39:50.840 align:middle line:84%
And in the meantime, you can
go ahead and ask questions

00:39:50.840 --> 00:39:53.000 align:middle line:84%
in the chat, and I'll
take a look at those, too.

00:39:53.000 --> 00:39:55.598 align:middle line:90%
Hold on.

00:39:55.598 --> 00:39:57.390 align:middle line:84%
BRIANNA BLASER: And I
am working on getting

00:39:57.390 --> 00:39:58.882 align:middle line:90%
those links in the chat.

00:39:58.882 --> 00:40:00.090 align:middle line:90%
They'll be there momentarily.

00:40:00.090 --> 00:40:00.840 align:middle line:90%
GABY DE JONGH: OK.

00:40:00.840 --> 00:40:05.060 align:middle line:90%


00:40:05.060 --> 00:40:06.890 align:middle line:84%
And my computer
just went to sleep.

00:40:06.890 --> 00:40:08.750 align:middle line:90%
That's really weird.

00:40:08.750 --> 00:40:10.095 align:middle line:90%
There we go.

00:40:10.095 --> 00:40:10.595 align:middle line:90%
OK.

00:40:10.595 --> 00:40:14.670 align:middle line:90%


00:40:14.670 --> 00:40:18.390 align:middle line:84%
So it looks like I have a
question here from Abigail.

00:40:18.390 --> 00:40:21.720 align:middle line:84%
Is the Ally plugin automatically
installed on Canvas,

00:40:21.720 --> 00:40:23.400 align:middle line:84%
or is this something
that Canvas users

00:40:23.400 --> 00:40:25.390 align:middle line:90%
have to upload individually?

00:40:25.390 --> 00:40:28.320 align:middle line:84%
So it's actually an
enterprise solution.

00:40:28.320 --> 00:40:31.530 align:middle line:84%
Ally plugin is an
enterprise solution.

00:40:31.530 --> 00:40:37.110 align:middle line:84%
So we had to purchase
Ally for our entire campus

00:40:37.110 --> 00:40:40.020 align:middle line:84%
in order to take
advantage of it,

00:40:40.020 --> 00:40:49.920 align:middle line:84%
and it was deployed as
a widespread solution

00:40:49.920 --> 00:40:55.620 align:middle line:84%
so that all of the courses
have access to Ally.

00:40:55.620 --> 00:40:57.690 align:middle line:84%
And that's something
that you want

00:40:57.690 --> 00:41:00.610 align:middle line:84%
to do at the
institutional level.

00:41:00.610 --> 00:41:02.090 align:middle line:90%
BRIANNA BLASER: Thank you.

00:41:02.090 --> 00:41:03.630 align:middle line:90%
GABY DE JONGH: OK.

00:41:03.630 --> 00:41:04.910 align:middle line:90%
Oh, yes.

00:41:04.910 --> 00:41:07.890 align:middle line:84%
Avis says, will you please
share the links in the chat?

00:41:07.890 --> 00:41:08.390 align:middle line:90%
OK, yeah.

00:41:08.390 --> 00:41:10.730 align:middle line:84%
It looks like Brianna,
you're working on that.

00:41:10.730 --> 00:41:12.220 align:middle line:90%
BRIANNA BLASER: I am.

00:41:12.220 --> 00:41:12.980 align:middle line:90%
GABY DE JONGH: OK.

00:41:12.980 --> 00:41:16.220 align:middle line:84%
And Caitlin says, we use
a third-party website

00:41:16.220 --> 00:41:19.640 align:middle line:84%
for some homework
in a class I teach.

00:41:19.640 --> 00:41:22.840 align:middle line:84%
How can I determine if it
is accessible to start?

00:41:22.840 --> 00:41:25.070 align:middle line:84%
Can a screen reader
appropriately

00:41:25.070 --> 00:41:26.750 align:middle line:90%
communicate the content?

00:41:26.750 --> 00:41:30.230 align:middle line:90%


00:41:30.230 --> 00:41:33.530 align:middle line:90%
So that's a good question.

00:41:33.530 --> 00:41:36.160 align:middle line:90%
There's a lot to unpack there.

00:41:36.160 --> 00:41:38.290 align:middle line:84%
I'm going to start off
with the first part.

00:41:38.290 --> 00:41:41.920 align:middle line:84%
How can you determine
if it is accessible?

00:41:41.920 --> 00:41:45.730 align:middle line:84%
You probably need to have
somebody from your IT

00:41:45.730 --> 00:41:49.480 align:middle line:84%
department or if you
have Disability Services

00:41:49.480 --> 00:41:54.340 align:middle line:84%
or if you have an
accessibility IT department

00:41:54.340 --> 00:41:56.380 align:middle line:84%
in your institution,
you probably

00:41:56.380 --> 00:41:59.510 align:middle line:84%
want to ask them and see if
they can help you out with that.

00:41:59.510 --> 00:42:01.540 align:middle line:84%
That does require a
bit of skill in order

00:42:01.540 --> 00:42:06.280 align:middle line:84%
to determine whether or
not that third-party is

00:42:06.280 --> 00:42:08.330 align:middle line:90%
accessible or not.

00:42:08.330 --> 00:42:10.620 align:middle line:84%
So there's a lot
that goes into that.

00:42:10.620 --> 00:42:12.370 align:middle line:84%
And if you have more
questions about that,

00:42:12.370 --> 00:42:14.785 align:middle line:84%
Caitlin, then you
can email me directly

00:42:14.785 --> 00:42:19.060 align:middle line:84%
and we can talk about how
would you go about that.

00:42:19.060 --> 00:42:20.860 align:middle line:84%
What department in
your institution

00:42:20.860 --> 00:42:23.290 align:middle line:84%
would you need to
interact with in order

00:42:23.290 --> 00:42:26.020 align:middle line:84%
to get the help that you need
to determine whether or not

00:42:26.020 --> 00:42:28.406 align:middle line:90%
that website is accessible?

00:42:28.406 --> 00:42:32.260 align:middle line:90%


00:42:32.260 --> 00:42:32.760 align:middle line:90%
OK.

00:42:32.760 --> 00:42:38.410 align:middle line:84%
Looks Brianna's pasted
a couple of links there.

00:42:38.410 --> 00:42:39.752 align:middle line:90%
Any other questions?

00:42:39.752 --> 00:42:49.730 align:middle line:90%


00:42:49.730 --> 00:42:52.370 align:middle line:84%
BRIANNA BLASER: I was just going
to say that UW accessibility

00:42:52.370 --> 00:42:55.940 align:middle line:84%
page has tons of good resources
on this that I send folks

00:42:55.940 --> 00:42:56.720 align:middle line:90%
to all the time.

00:42:56.720 --> 00:43:02.452 align:middle line:84%
So that link that I put into
the chat for the captioning,

00:43:02.452 --> 00:43:04.910 align:middle line:84%
if you go through there, you
can find other great resources

00:43:04.910 --> 00:43:09.142 align:middle line:84%
that Gaby and her
colleagues put together.

00:43:09.142 --> 00:43:10.850 align:middle line:84%
GABY DE JONGH: And we
always update them.

00:43:10.850 --> 00:43:13.460 align:middle line:84%
These tools are
changing, and they're

00:43:13.460 --> 00:43:17.480 align:middle line:84%
getting better and better,
which is great to hear.

00:43:17.480 --> 00:43:21.290 align:middle line:84%
So as they are increasing
in their ability

00:43:21.290 --> 00:43:24.920 align:middle line:84%
to create accessible content,
we do update the information

00:43:24.920 --> 00:43:27.890 align:middle line:84%
that Brianna has shared
in the links page.

00:43:27.890 --> 00:43:29.390 align:middle line:84%
BRIANNA BLASER:
Gaby, two questions.

00:43:29.390 --> 00:43:32.450 align:middle line:84%
One is, are you willing
to share the slides?

00:43:32.450 --> 00:43:36.218 align:middle line:84%
GABY DE JONGH: Yeah, I'm
happy to share those slides.

00:43:36.218 --> 00:43:38.260 align:middle line:84%
Should I send them to you
and then you can share?

00:43:38.260 --> 00:43:38.340 align:middle line:90%
BRIANNA BLASER: Yeah.

00:43:38.340 --> 00:43:39.715 align:middle line:84%
If you send them
to me via email,

00:43:39.715 --> 00:43:41.930 align:middle line:84%
I will email them to
everybody with the evaluation.

00:43:41.930 --> 00:43:42.930 align:middle line:90%
GABY DE JONGH: OK, yeah.

00:43:42.930 --> 00:43:43.952 align:middle line:90%
Great.

00:43:43.952 --> 00:43:44.660 align:middle line:90%
Happy to do that.

00:43:44.660 --> 00:43:46.658 align:middle line:90%


00:43:46.658 --> 00:43:48.200 align:middle line:84%
BRIANNA BLASER: I
also got a question

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privately over the chat
about, how would you

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suggest working with
faculty who are creating

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homegrown educational tools?

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What sorts of resources
would you share with them?

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GABY DE JONGH: Oh, wow.

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That's a great one.

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We're actually trying to
dissuade a lot of our faculty

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here at the University
from using homegrown tools

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because we can't address
the accessibility

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of those homegrown tools.

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So in order to kind of approach
that, I would ask the faculty--

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let's see.

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And this is a very
pedagogical approach.

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The information that they're
trying to convey using these

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third-party solutions--

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have they done any research
as to the accessibility

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of those tools?

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And they may or may not have.

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At least it gets them
thinking about that,

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that they may need to think
about if they're using tools

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on their own, have
they done the research

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in making sure that
these tools are usable

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not just by individuals
with disabilities,

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but individuals who
don't have disabilities?

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Sometimes tools are
just poorly designed,

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or may not make
sense to everybody.

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So have those tools
been thoroughly vetted?

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Stuff like that.

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BRIANNA BLASER: Great.

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Thank you.

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Well, not seeing
any other questions,

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join me in thanking Gaby
for this presentation.

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And I will follow up the
email with all of you.

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Thanks a lot.

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GABY DE JONGH: Thank you.

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BRIANNA BLASER: Bye-bye.

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