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SHERYL BURGSTAHLER: OK, 9
o'clock here in Seattle.

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It's a little bit of a cloudy
day here-- not a big surprise.

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But often, those
clouds will burn off,

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and it'll be really sunny.

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Or at least we'll
have some sun breaks.

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We like to have sun breaks
here in the Seattle area.

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I'm Sheryl Burgstahler,
the Director

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of Accessible Technology
Services at the University

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of Washington.

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And I'm joined by Terrill
Thompson and Brianna Blaser

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today to deliver this webinar.

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And we'll be
chatting all morning,

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but we're going to
have a few breaks

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so you can get up
and get some snacks

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and so forth at those times.

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Well, in this new normal of
face masks and hand sanitizers

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and social
distancing, we decided

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to offer this webinar or
this particular program

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online, of course.

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But also, we decided
that our focus

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is going to be
almost exclusively

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to online applications, although
we are going to be talking

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about some basic principles
about accessibility that

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can be applied on site as well.

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And we'll mention
those periodically.

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So moving online has
been a bit of a change

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for all of us and what we--

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the fact that it's totally
online, and for many of us

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in our jobs.

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And I miss some things, like
meeting with staff in person

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and so forth.

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But you know there's a
lot of talk about what's

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negative about it, but I've
found a few personal things

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that are quite positive for me.

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I think it's nice
in the morning.

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Only have to dress
myself from the waist up.

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Pretty cool.

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I don't even use
the mirror anymore

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to see what back my hair looks
like, so that's kind of nice.

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One thing I really like about
it is the occasional child

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or pet that ends up
to be in Zoom meetings

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and just seeing them quietly be
around or actually noisily be

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around at times as well.

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So that's fun too.

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It's just a new
normal, a new thing.

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So this event is part of our
dissemination for a grant

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that we received from the
National Science Foundation

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called AccessINCLUDES.

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And all three of us are involved
in that particular project.

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I'll point to one reference.

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And Brianna's going to
follow up with a message

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at the end of this to all of
you with a summary of resources

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we've talked about.

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We'll put some things in chat
occasionally and so forth,

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but there'll be a follow-up
message with all of them

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in there, and this
will be in there.

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It's Universal Design
in Higher Education--

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From Principles to
Practice, actually

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funded by an earlier grant from
the Department of Education.

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And it has 40 authors
and co-authors, published

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by Harvard Education Press, that
talk about universal design,

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and some of that
is related to IT,

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online learning, and so forth,
what we're talking about today.

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And coming soon, we are going
to have a complementary book.

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It's not an update
of that book, but one

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that's more focused
on applications called

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Creative Inclusive Learning
Opportunities in Higher

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Education--

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A Universal Design Toolkit.

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We're focusing on higher
education again, but most of it

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applies to K-12 and other
applications as well.

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I host an online community,
and it's UDHE CoP

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is the title of it, a
community of practice.

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And if you want to
join that community,

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you can just send me email--

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S-H-E-R-Y-L-B @uw.edu, and I
will sign you up for that list.

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It's not a high-traffic list,
but there are people on it

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from all over the world.

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So if you're looking
at inclusive design

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or universal design,
that's a good place to be,

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particularly if you're
in higher education.

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I mentioned that I direct
accessible technology services.

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The three of us represent the
two groups within that domain.

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We all work at the
University of Washington.

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One is our IT
accessibility team,

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and Terrill is the
manager of that team.

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That team, technically
not called that,

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but we started efforts
as far as accessible IT,

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mainly focusing on AT,
Assistive Technology or Adaptive

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Technology, way back in 1984.

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All of our efforts
there are funded

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by the University of Washington,
and much of what we do now

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is focusing more on
accessible technology design,

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like websites and so forth.

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But we haven't lost
our original efforts

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as far as assistive
technology as well.

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We have a showroom.

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Doesn't get a lot of
visitors these days,

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but it's still there.

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We'll be back to it soon I hope.

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And so that's one of our groups.

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Some people will
say, well, how come

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the University of Washington's
put so many resources

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into create things like this and
meetings and resources online?

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Well, it's not only
University of Washington.

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A lot of those resources that
are benefiting other people

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are funded by the DO-IT
Center, where disabilities,

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opportunities, internet
working, and technology is all

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that we are about.

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And that started in 1992
focusing on the United States

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of America-- whole thing.

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And it was funded by the
National Science Foundation.

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And we've had continuous funding
from them for various projects,

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but also by the
state of Washington

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and other federal
grants, like Department

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of Education, Department of
Labor, corporate sponsors,

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and private funds.

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But we went international
somewhere along the line

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and worked with a lot
of different countries.

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But DO-IT Japan is the one
that has a fully implemented

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DO-IT Center at the
University of Tokyo.

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And you can go there, but
unless you know Japanese,

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you won't recognize
much of the content.

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But there are a lot of pictures
of kids with disabilities

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doing cool things in
Japan and sometimes

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working with our own kids
participating in our country.

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And one thing that was funded by
the US Department of Education,

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and we continue
to maintain it, is

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the Center on Universal
Design and Education.

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That started in 1999.

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The primary focus is
post-secondary education

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because that's what
we're mainly about,

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but it does also apply
to the K-12 as well.

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We point to resources that
have more in-depth resources

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in that particular category.

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So AccessINCLUDES, it's making
the INCLUDES network better

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prepared to address
disability-related issues

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and broadening
participation in STEM.

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And the INCLUDES network
is a nationwide network

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hosted by the National Science
Foundation that basically

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is just a collection of
projects that are focusing

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on broadening participation.

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And sometimes, in some cases,
some other organizations

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as well, like partners
in our projects

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that are not really funded
by NSF but working with us.

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And so we're trying to
make all these activities

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accessible to individuals
with disabilities.

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And what we find that
probably is no surprise

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to most people on
this webinar today

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is that most of
those projects focus

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on women and racial
ethnic minorities

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and don't deal with
disability, even

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for the participants
in their programs

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that might have disabilities.

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And so we're really
about accessibility.

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And our projects, in
this case, focuses

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on working with other
INCLUDES projects

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to help make their
projects more welcoming

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and accessible to
individuals with disabilities

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that they serve.

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That includes their resources
that they might have online.

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So our agenda-- this
is all Pacific time,

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as that's where we are.

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And I'll keep us on schedule--

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is pretty simple.

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We are going to talk
for about an hour

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on just a little
introduction, mainly

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focusing on the universal design
perspective and principles

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and how it applies
to online learning.

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A very high-level
approach to what

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do we need to think
about in online learning?

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And then, we'll
have a quick break.

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And at 10:10, Terrill
will be talking

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about websites, documents,
videos, and vendor products.

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And then, we'll have
a quick break again.

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And when you come back,
Brianna will be available

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talking about online meetings.

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She has become our specialist
on online meetings because she

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hosts a lot of them and has a
lot of good boots-on-the-ground

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experience to share
in that regard.

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And then we'll have 10 minutes
for resources and discussion.

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If you have some
individual questions,

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we'll remain online for a little
while after the presentation,

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but we will officially
close at noon.

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So if you want to
make a comment,

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you should raise
your hand, and we'll

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see if we can fit that in.

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Most of the Q&A will happen at
the end of our presentations,

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and so write your
questions in chat,

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and we will keep track of
them and feed some questions

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to the presenter at the end.

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Hopefully, it'll be more
efficient in that regard.

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You can also follow up with us
after the presentation is over.

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We can respond by email.

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So at the very end, we'll have
some resources and discussion.

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So I'm doing the section
that is on universal design

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and online learning.

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Also, the intro, which is
the universal design part

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of all that.

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And I just want to have a little
bit about our approach to all

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this because we're just taking
a slice of what we might want

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to talk about as
far as increasing

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opportunities for individuals
with disabilities.

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So they're more similar to what
other people have opportunities

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to do.

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And with their Black Lives
Matter movement and so forth,

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I think we're
particularly in tune

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to underrepresented groups that
are just not treated fairly

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in many ways.

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And individuals with
disabilities is another group.

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And so we ask well what could
make the success of people

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with disabilities in higher
education and careers

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be at a higher level?

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Who needs to do what?

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And just as a quick review,
the person with a disability

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has to be prepared
to take advantage

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of opportunities that are
available to them, of course.

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We work a lot with kids with
disabilities, for instance,

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and getting them prepared
for college and careers,

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using technology that can
help them be more successful.

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Their family members--
DO-IT has projects.

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We work with parents
of our DO-IT scholars

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in one of our programs to
help them help their child be

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more successful and
whatever they choose to do.

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Peers and near peers, adult
mentors, allies of any type

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are important as well.

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Community groups and special
programs, service providers,

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like disability support services
and community services--

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K-12 teachers and
counselors have

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to help these students get
ready for after high school.

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And post-secondary
administrators, faculty,

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and staff employers technology
individuals and vendors,

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and those are all groups that
we need to consider along

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with even high level
things, like legislators

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and policymakers and
funding agencies.

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And in the Black
Lives Matter movement,

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which I'm really liking the
conversations that we're

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hearing from that,
listening to people

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present different roles that
organizations need to play

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is a difficult problem.

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It means that a
lot of people have

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to be involved in the solution,
and just about everyone

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can do something.

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So what is an inclusive
environment for everyone?

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This means something
different to different people,

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as I have learned.

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So what we're talking
about is everybody

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who meets the requirements,
with or without accommodations,

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is encouraged to participate
in a project, in a course,

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in an activity.

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And when your staff respond
to a student's request

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for an accommodation in
a startled way, like,

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oh, oh, well, we
weren't anticipating

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that we were going to
a blind person sign

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up for this program.

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That is not very welcoming.

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We should encourage people
to participate by being

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ready for them to participate.

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People feel welcome.

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And they're fully engaged
and accessible and inclusive

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activities.

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So there is a legal
basis for all of this,

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and that could be a
whole webinar in itself.

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But it goes back to
1973 with section

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504 of the Rehabilitation
Act, and actually

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adding to that, the Americans
with Disabilities Act of 1990

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and its 2008 amendments.

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There are also state
and local laws.

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But looking at those
two federal laws,

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sometimes, people are
surprised to learn

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that there isn't
detail about how

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to make your online
courses or even

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your physical spaces
accessible in the law itself.

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There are standards
and guidelines

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that have followed
those, but it's

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because it's civil
rights legislation.

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We basically say in those laws
that people with disabilities

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have a right to participate
in whatever we offer.

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Whether it's a course or
resources on a website

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or whatever, they have
a right to be there,

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and we need to make
those things accessible.

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Now, some of you on this
list are disability service

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providers, and you have to be
very familiar with these laws,

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and also even definitions
of disability and common

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accommodations and so forth.

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Most of us are not in that role.

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Particularly in my case I teach
online as part of the things

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that I do.

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But for us, I think just think
about ability on a continuum,

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that we just assume
that in our course

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there will be a
range in abilities

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to understand English, to
understand social norms.

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It might be a cultural issue.

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It might be a disability issue.

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But there might people that
have not much experience

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in that area, and so they
might be toward the arrow

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on the left, which is not able,
and others might be very able.

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So all we do as instructors
or resource operators

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is just assume that
there are people that

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are using our resources or
taking our courses that fall

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on that continuum.

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The ability to see--

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many of us were born with
very high ability to see.

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And as we get older,
we become less able.

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So we're not stable on
this double-edged arrow

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throughout our lives.

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And then others are just born
with various abilities to see.

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So again, as service providers
and content providers,

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we need to think there are
just a variety of people

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in our course or
looking at our resource,

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all the way from can't see
at all to very good sight,

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on and on, where the ability to
hear, or walk, or read print,

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or write with a pen or pencil,
to communicate verbally,

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to tune out distraction,
to learn and manage

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physical and mental health.

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Again, some of these,
like tune out distraction,

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you might say,
well, that must be

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related to attention deficits.

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And it is, in a way,
because that affects

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that particular ability.

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But again, there
are other people

00:14:50.610 --> 00:14:52.152 align:middle line:84%
that might have
difficulty tuning out

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distractions that wouldn't be
considered having a disability.

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And we don't even know that.

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We just have to assume a variety
of people in our classes.

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The accommodation
focused approach

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that we typically
use on our campus

00:15:02.925 --> 00:15:08.010 align:middle line:84%
as our primary approach is
to provide an accommodation

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to students that sign up
for a particular class

00:15:11.010 --> 00:15:13.590 align:middle line:84%
and those accommodations are
approved by the Disability

00:15:13.590 --> 00:15:15.330 align:middle line:90%
Support Services Office.

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But what they actually
do at that point

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is they adjust an existing
product or environment

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for a particular person.

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Common accommodations when we're
looking at online resources

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are creating
accessible documents--

00:15:29.430 --> 00:15:32.190 align:middle line:84%
actually, remediating documents
that are not accessible

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might be a better
way to word that--

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and captioning videos.

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And so we'll be talking today
about universal design, where

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you look proactively
at the product itself

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because sometimes it's
the design of the course

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or the website or whatever
else we're providing

00:15:49.530 --> 00:15:51.540 align:middle line:90%
that we should be scrutinizing.

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How come the design is not
built-in to be accessible,

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like captions on videos?

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Some of you have
seen this before.

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Some people who know we are
tired of seeing this image.

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I love this image.

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"The Coffee Pot for
Masochists" out of the Catalog

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of Unfindable Objects.

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This is no longer
in print, but I

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have the Psychology of Everyday
Things and also this catalog,

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and it's really a fun
thing to look through.

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It has a lot of
products like this

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that aren't very well designed.

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And so you have the spout and
the handle on the same side.

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And if you were using this
coffee pot at an event

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or something, I don't think
you would just casually

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say, OK, fine.

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I suppose you could pour the
coffee out the other side

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so you don't burn
your arm or something.

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Or if you are an engineer,
if any of you were engineers,

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you would probably
put plastic tubing--

00:16:37.130 --> 00:16:38.700 align:middle line:84%
you've probably
designed it already--

00:16:38.700 --> 00:16:40.320 align:middle line:84%
through that spout
in there, and you'd

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have some kind of a
engine or something that

00:16:42.617 --> 00:16:43.450 align:middle line:90%
would pull that out.

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But anyway, it's a
ridiculous product.

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And you could look at some
of our online learning

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and look at it on ourselves.

00:16:49.620 --> 00:16:51.030 align:middle line:90%
We don't criticize each other.

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But say, well, this is
really not very accessible.

00:16:53.550 --> 00:16:55.650 align:middle line:84%
Maybe I could work on
this a little bit better.

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When we talk about that, we're
talking about universal design.

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And so the definition
of universal design

00:17:01.410 --> 00:17:05.339 align:middle line:84%
by the Center on Universal
Design at North Carolina State

00:17:05.339 --> 00:17:09.240 align:middle line:84%
University was defined many
years ago as the design

00:17:09.240 --> 00:17:13.440 align:middle line:84%
of products and environments
to be usable by all people

00:17:13.440 --> 00:17:16.890 align:middle line:84%
to the greatest extent possible
without the need for adaptation

00:17:16.890 --> 00:17:18.480 align:middle line:90%
or specialized design.

00:17:18.480 --> 00:17:20.430 align:middle line:84%
Notice it doesn't
mentioned disability.

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It's talking about all people.

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And so people in our online
class or using our resources,

00:17:27.630 --> 00:17:29.310 align:middle line:84%
English may not be
their first language.

00:17:29.310 --> 00:17:32.290 align:middle line:84%
They might be colorblind,
which is not a disability.

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So universal design, even
though people connect it

00:17:34.950 --> 00:17:37.410 align:middle line:84%
with disability,
is not that way.

00:17:37.410 --> 00:17:40.350 align:middle line:84%
We may focus on disability,
which is what art project does.

00:17:40.350 --> 00:17:42.030 align:middle line:90%
That's what we do.

00:17:42.030 --> 00:17:46.820 align:middle line:90%
But it's more general than that.

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And then, if we take a
look at online products

00:17:49.490 --> 00:17:52.700 align:middle line:84%
and environments then, what
we're talking about today--

00:17:52.700 --> 00:17:55.820 align:middle line:84%
activities or
resources or whatever.

00:17:55.820 --> 00:17:57.080 align:middle line:90%
We look at those.

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We can just use the
same definition.

00:17:58.580 --> 00:18:00.913 align:middle line:84%
There are a lot of definitions
out there for this, that,

00:18:00.913 --> 00:18:02.990 align:middle line:84%
and whatever where we
apply universal design,

00:18:02.990 --> 00:18:04.670 align:middle line:84%
and maybe because I like
to look at things simply,

00:18:04.670 --> 00:18:06.170 align:middle line:84%
I just use the same
old definition,

00:18:06.170 --> 00:18:07.670 align:middle line:84%
just change the
wording a little bit

00:18:07.670 --> 00:18:09.352 align:middle line:90%
if I want to provide emphasis.

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So I would say a good definition
for what we're doing today

00:18:11.810 --> 00:18:14.570 align:middle line:84%
is the design of online
products and environments

00:18:14.570 --> 00:18:17.750 align:middle line:84%
to be usable by all
people to the greatest

00:18:17.750 --> 00:18:20.750 align:middle line:84%
extent possible without the need
for adaptation or specialized

00:18:20.750 --> 00:18:21.860 align:middle line:90%
design.

00:18:21.860 --> 00:18:23.810 align:middle line:84%
So we might have to
provide accommodations.

00:18:23.810 --> 00:18:25.530 align:middle line:90%
It doesn't say we never do.

00:18:25.530 --> 00:18:27.020 align:middle line:84%
It's just that we
should design it

00:18:27.020 --> 00:18:31.500 align:middle line:84%
so that we don't have to pry
very many, and maybe none.

00:18:31.500 --> 00:18:35.910 align:middle line:84%
And so we don't have to provide
that specialized design.

00:18:35.910 --> 00:18:38.270 align:middle line:84%
Proactive design
terminology-- there's

00:18:38.270 --> 00:18:39.600 align:middle line:90%
a lot of that out there.

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And I'm just going to hit
some of the highlights

00:18:41.600 --> 00:18:43.413 align:middle line:90%
here that I run into the most.

00:18:43.413 --> 00:18:45.080 align:middle line:84%
And sometimes, they're
used synonymously

00:18:45.080 --> 00:18:47.120 align:middle line:84%
with universal design,
but I don't think

00:18:47.120 --> 00:18:49.610 align:middle line:90%
they are actually synonyms.

00:18:49.610 --> 00:18:51.320 align:middle line:84%
But people use them
in different ways.

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When I use this accessible
design, I think about it

00:18:53.750 --> 00:18:55.910 align:middle line:84%
and how it's
typically used, it's

00:18:55.910 --> 00:18:57.750 align:middle line:90%
about people with disabilities.

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It is specifically making
products and environments

00:19:00.500 --> 00:19:02.960 align:middle line:84%
usable by individuals
with disabilities.

00:19:02.960 --> 00:19:04.670 align:middle line:90%
It's used differently, So.

00:19:04.670 --> 00:19:08.660 align:middle line:84%
It's not in stone, but that's
a way I think of accessibility.

00:19:08.660 --> 00:19:11.090 align:middle line:90%
Another step is usable design.

00:19:11.090 --> 00:19:14.450 align:middle line:84%
And we have usability experts
in this area, where you're

00:19:14.450 --> 00:19:18.380 align:middle line:84%
actually testing the product to
see if you can actually use it

00:19:18.380 --> 00:19:22.430 align:middle line:84%
for the purpose that
it was designed for.

00:19:22.430 --> 00:19:24.110 align:middle line:90%
Someone on our staff, Hadi--

00:19:24.110 --> 00:19:25.850 align:middle line:90%
some of you know him--

00:19:25.850 --> 00:19:27.890 align:middle line:90%
happens to be blind himself.

00:19:27.890 --> 00:19:30.950 align:middle line:84%
And he was telling me not long--
well, it was a while back now.

00:19:30.950 --> 00:19:32.540 align:middle line:84%
But some software
package, he was

00:19:32.540 --> 00:19:34.100 align:middle line:84%
joking about this
software package

00:19:34.100 --> 00:19:36.020 align:middle line:84%
that he was checking
for accessibility.

00:19:36.020 --> 00:19:40.410 align:middle line:84%
And the company had just built
in a lot of shortcut keys

00:19:40.410 --> 00:19:43.093 align:middle line:84%
so that you can work around
all the inaccessible features

00:19:43.093 --> 00:19:44.510 align:middle line:84%
if you happen to
be using a screen

00:19:44.510 --> 00:19:46.970 align:middle line:90%
reader as a blind person.

00:19:46.970 --> 00:19:50.120 align:middle line:84%
And anyway, there are
over a hundred of them.

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And so for Hadi, that product
was technically accessible.

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He could access
all the features.

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But I don't think any of us
would think that that's usable.

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It's not reasonable for
someone to have to memorize

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100 or more shortcut keys.

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Where would they be?

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Next to him in a Braille
document or somewhere online

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that he would have to
use for every feature.

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So that was not a usable design.

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And then, there's
inclusive design.

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Sometimes a design is totally
separate for individuals

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with disabilities
or some other group.

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That wouldn't be inclusive.

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And so I look at
universal design

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is being a very
broad category, where

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it has the capability or
the characteristic of being

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accessible and
usable and inclusive.

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And so if an approach
or a resource

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needs those three
characteristics,

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I would call that a
universally designed

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product or environment.

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Barrier free design is
another term often used.

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And I see it more
often used when

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we're talking about the
physical environment,

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and then more
appropriately for people

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who have mobility impairments
or other impairments that affect

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their engagement in a
physical environment,

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although I've seen people use
that term for universal design

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as well.

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And then, design for all-- some
countries, including India,

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use that.

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And as far as I can see,
it's exactly the same thing

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as universal design.

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So proactive approaches-- all
these approaches [AUDIO OUT]

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so you worry about them at the
beginning stages of design,

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and they make things
inclusive of everyone.

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This has been around
for a long time.

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People didn't call it
universal design way back when.

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I have an image on the screen
of a person in a wheelchair.

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This picture was of this
person in the "UW Daily"

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on the front page in 1970.

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It says underneath it,
"Forging a stream of humanity,

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this silent protester carries
his campaign on his back.

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His goal-- to end
high-rise sidewalks."

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It says "Ramp the curbs.

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Get me off the street."

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And so this was
back in the '70s.

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And people were
campaigning, protesting

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to get curb cuts
put in sidewalks

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so people were in
wheelchairs did not

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have to be out on
major streets or not

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be able to get from
one place to another.

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Now, I'm assuming
that some people back

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in the '70s thought
that was unreasonable

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because there were so many
sidewalks in the world that

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didn't have curb cuts.

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But I think we're
at a point now where

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everybody just assumes they'll
be built into a sidewalk.

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It's a lot of extra work to go
back and retrofit a sidewalk

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so it has a curb cut.

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We know about that at the
University of Washington

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with our old campus.

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But it's very easy to build
it in the original design,

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and that's what
universal design is.

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I also like to point
out and really emphasize

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the idea that universal
design is inclusive.

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On the screen now, you see a
typical entrance to a building.

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This is at the
University of Washington.

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It has two steps to the front
entrance, and to the left,

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it looks like an ADA-compliant
ramp that goes up for someone

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who cannot maneuver those steps.

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And so we have an ADA-compliant,
very accessible, quite usable

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product, but it's not inclusive.

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Why?

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Because if I'm
walking side-by-side

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with someone using a wheelchair,
we will usually part ways

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as we go into that building.

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And I've actually
tried walking in front

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of the in a wheelchair or
behind, and it's very awkward.

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And so you don't
want to do that.

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So it really is not inclusive.

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You're giving to
operate opportunities,

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but you have to choose
one or the other.

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Where this last image is
another building on our campus

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that actually is much
an older building that

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has just a single entrance.

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It's a ramp, a sloping ramp
that goes into the building.

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You'll notice it's quite wide.

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And so I can walk down
that ramp with a person

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who's using a wheelchair
or a walker side-by-side.

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We can continue our conversation
to get into the building.

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There are steps in that
building, by the way,

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but it's not the
primary entrance.

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And so that's what
universal design is about.

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It's not that anything's
terribly wrong with the image

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on the left.

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It's just not fully inclusive.

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So universal design takes
us to a higher standard

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than ADA-compliant.

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We take a look at technology,
universal design of technology

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will build in accessibility
features as much as possible.

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The best example
is our smartphones.

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You could change the color
of your screen, and text,

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and it talks to you.

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Actually, mine talks
to me too much.

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I get my iPhone talking to
me, and I can't figure out

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how to get it to stop talking.

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But anyway, it does that.

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And there are a lot of
accessibility features

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not necessarily used by
people with disabilities.

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But also, universal
design requires

00:24:48.050 --> 00:24:51.320 align:middle line:84%
that there's compatibility
with assistive technology.

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Assistive technology
being products

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that a person with
a disability might

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be using, like a screen
reader that will read content

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on the screen clear to
a person who is blind,

00:25:01.790 --> 00:25:04.740 align:middle line:84%
assuming that content
is in a text-based form.

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And so we need compatibility
with existing products,

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like Braille embossers, and
other assistive technologies,

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like alternative
keyboards and so forth,

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that a person with a
disability might want to use.

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And there are a
lot of people that

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benefit from universal design.

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A simple example is just videos.

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If we take a look at YouTube
videos or other videos

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that we can access,
the captions benefit

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people who are any unable to
hear the audio, of course.

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And that could be
because a person is deaf,

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but it also might be that
they're in a situation where

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they cannot hear the audio
because it's really noisy

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or it's noiseless.

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Like in a baby's room,
you want to watch a video,

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but you don't want
to wake up the baby.

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And so they might be
English language learners,

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and they need to see the
spelling of the words.

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Again, it could be a noisy
or noiseless location.

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It could be a slow
internet connection,

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why someone's not using
the image in the video,

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and they want to know
the spelling of words.

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If you look at a video
on YouTube on chemistry,

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if those computer-generated
captions have not

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been edited by a
professor, I bet

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there are a lot of really long
words that are spelled wrong.

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And a lot of people
just simply don't

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know that they can go in
and edit those captions.

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Now, there might be
other ways to make them

00:26:22.070 --> 00:26:23.330 align:middle line:90%
more elegant and synchronized.

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But at least people who
post their YouTube videos

00:26:26.780 --> 00:26:30.110 align:middle line:84%
should edit the captions
and get the punctuation

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and the correct spelling in.

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And then, we might want
to find content quickly.

00:26:36.570 --> 00:26:39.380 align:middle line:84%
And of you could scan
through the text of captions,

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you could actually do that.

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And so that's the nature
of universal design.

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I'm going to talk about
online learning now.

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And I think I'll just start real
quickly with three people that

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might be in your class.

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And just think about
them a little bit.

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Anthony-- all these people
have been participants

00:26:56.300 --> 00:26:58.040 align:middle line:90%
in our other projects.

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He works at Prentke
Romich Company,

00:26:59.570 --> 00:27:03.530 align:middle line:84%
which develops and distributes
assistive technology.

00:27:03.530 --> 00:27:05.630 align:middle line:84%
Anthony happens to have
cerebral palsy that

00:27:05.630 --> 00:27:08.780 align:middle line:84%
affects his mobility,
his dexterity,

00:27:08.780 --> 00:27:13.950 align:middle line:84%
his ability to speak
with his voice.

00:27:13.950 --> 00:27:16.880 align:middle line:84%
And so it also has contributed
to a learning disability.

00:27:16.880 --> 00:27:20.240 align:middle line:84%
So he has difficulty
reading and composing

00:27:20.240 --> 00:27:21.800 align:middle line:90%
messages and documents.

00:27:21.800 --> 00:27:24.950 align:middle line:84%
So he uses a spellchecker
and a grammar checker,

00:27:24.950 --> 00:27:27.980 align:middle line:84%
just traditional ones that
other people would be using.

00:27:27.980 --> 00:27:32.360 align:middle line:84%
He does use a synthesized voice
on a communication device.

00:27:32.360 --> 00:27:34.580 align:middle line:84%
He uses a touch
screen, and he uses

00:27:34.580 --> 00:27:40.775 align:middle line:84%
a computer-based environmental
control unit and phone access.

00:27:40.775 --> 00:27:42.150 align:middle line:84%
And I don't think
a lot of people

00:27:42.150 --> 00:27:47.600 align:middle line:84%
would just think of Anthony
and his functional capabilities

00:27:47.600 --> 00:27:50.630 align:middle line:84%
and think he would be a person
providing phone support,

00:27:50.630 --> 00:27:51.260 align:middle line:90%
but he does.

00:27:51.260 --> 00:27:55.460 align:middle line:84%
He provides telephone
support for Prentke Romich.

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And a lot of the people
he talks to, he tells me,

00:27:57.570 --> 00:28:00.448 align:middle line:84%
are parents where their child
has been recently diagnosed

00:28:00.448 --> 00:28:02.240 align:middle line:84%
with cerebral palsy or
some other condition

00:28:02.240 --> 00:28:06.255 align:middle line:84%
that affects their ability
to speak and perhaps operate

00:28:06.255 --> 00:28:07.340 align:middle line:90%
a keyboard.

00:28:07.340 --> 00:28:10.820 align:middle line:84%
And he gives them advice for
products that they can use.

00:28:10.820 --> 00:28:13.070 align:middle line:84%
And I have to smile when I
think about those parents

00:28:13.070 --> 00:28:16.850 align:middle line:84%
and how it might be very
encouraging for them,

00:28:16.850 --> 00:28:18.770 align:middle line:84%
as they're worried
about their child,

00:28:18.770 --> 00:28:21.410 align:middle line:84%
to see somebody who is so
successful in a technology

00:28:21.410 --> 00:28:25.330 align:middle line:84%
field who has a disability
somewhat of their own.

00:28:25.330 --> 00:28:28.000 align:middle line:84%
Nicole could be in your class
when she was younger, perhaps.

00:28:28.000 --> 00:28:31.660 align:middle line:84%
But she's beyond that now have
a bachelor's in computer science

00:28:31.660 --> 00:28:33.967 align:middle line:90%
and graduated from Stanford.

00:28:33.967 --> 00:28:35.800 align:middle line:84%
We tried to make an
offer at the university,

00:28:35.800 --> 00:28:37.210 align:middle line:90%
and we didn't get her.

00:28:37.210 --> 00:28:40.390 align:middle line:84%
But she's been involved
in our programs ever since

00:28:40.390 --> 00:28:41.950 align:middle line:90%
and works for Google.

00:28:41.950 --> 00:28:43.180 align:middle line:90%
She's blind.

00:28:43.180 --> 00:28:47.450 align:middle line:84%
She uses speech
output screen reader

00:28:47.450 --> 00:28:50.050 align:middle line:84%
so she can hear the content
presented on the screen

00:28:50.050 --> 00:28:51.820 align:middle line:90%
If it's presented in text.

00:28:51.820 --> 00:28:53.680 align:middle line:84%
She uses Braille
translation software

00:28:53.680 --> 00:28:57.550 align:middle line:84%
and can produce her own Braille
materials on a Braille display.

00:28:57.550 --> 00:29:00.820 align:middle line:84%
She also uses a standard printer
if she wants to print something

00:29:00.820 --> 00:29:03.890 align:middle line:90%
that a sighted user would use.

00:29:03.890 --> 00:29:06.340 align:middle line:90%
And the last case is Jessie.

00:29:06.340 --> 00:29:09.160 align:middle line:84%
She's graduated in informatics
at the University of Washington

00:29:09.160 --> 00:29:10.960 align:middle line:90%
and works at Amazon.

00:29:10.960 --> 00:29:13.870 align:middle line:84%
And she has multiple
learning disabilities

00:29:13.870 --> 00:29:18.890 align:middle line:84%
that make it difficult for her
to understand reading material,

00:29:18.890 --> 00:29:22.090 align:middle line:84%
but also to compose her thoughts
in an email message or document

00:29:22.090 --> 00:29:22.880 align:middle line:90%
or something.

00:29:22.880 --> 00:29:26.080 align:middle line:84%
And so she actually uses
speech input and output.

00:29:26.080 --> 00:29:29.380 align:middle line:84%
So her computer will talk to
her, and she dictates to it.

00:29:29.380 --> 00:29:34.940 align:middle line:84%
And so she might compose an
email message using her speech,

00:29:34.940 --> 00:29:38.890 align:middle line:84%
but then she can hear back
with the speech output system

00:29:38.890 --> 00:29:42.310 align:middle line:84%
text-to-speech software
what she has said.

00:29:42.310 --> 00:29:46.807 align:middle line:84%
And she uses grammar and
spellcheckers as well.

00:29:46.807 --> 00:29:48.890 align:middle line:84%
So those are three people
you might want to think about.

00:29:48.890 --> 00:29:50.080 align:middle line:84%
And as I said, with
universal design,

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you just assume
you're in the class.

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Some people will ask me, well,
should I survey all my students

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and see if anyone has a
disability or whatever--

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besides getting the letters
from the Disabilities Service

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office.

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Well, I don't object to
surveying your students,

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but why would you do that?

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Well, somebody might
be blind in my class.

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Well, if you've
prepared your class

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for students who are blind
to succeed in the class,

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then you don't need to do that.

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You don't require that
they share their disability

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with you.

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They just might choose not to.

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So some people think
they have to learn

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a lot about assistive technology
to design accessibility,

00:30:23.710 --> 00:30:25.420 align:middle line:90%
particularly in an online class.

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And that's actually
not the case.

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Assistive technology
has functionality,

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but it also has
some limitations.

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And so what you can do--

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although it's really fun to go
and learn about a lot assistive

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technology, so I would
encourage you to do so.

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What you can do is know what
the limitations and capabilities

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are of that technology, and
then design accordingly.

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For instance, we know with a
lot of assistive technology

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that people who are
blind and people

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who have some mobility
impairments use

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will emulate the keyboard but
not necessarily the mouse.

00:31:00.970 --> 00:31:01.940 align:middle line:90%
So what does that mean?

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Well, for a web
designer, it means

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that you need to create
products that can be operated

00:31:07.330 --> 00:31:08.950 align:middle line:90%
with the keyboard alone.

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It doesn't mean you can't
create products that are

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operated with a mouse as well.

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But when you're pulling down
a menu or something and people

00:31:15.760 --> 00:31:18.970 align:middle line:84%
are generally using a mouse that
you work through the process

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to figure out how to do
that in an alternative way,

00:31:21.340 --> 00:31:23.970 align:middle line:84%
maybe using arrow keys or
something on the keyboard.

00:31:23.970 --> 00:31:28.630 align:middle line:84%
And that's true of software
and other IT products as well.

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A screen reader cannot read the
content presented in images.

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They can only read content
presented in a text format.

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And so if you're showing
an image on the screen,

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it's important to
provide alternative text

00:31:39.940 --> 00:31:42.980 align:middle line:84%
so that their screen reader
can pick up on that text.

00:31:42.980 --> 00:31:45.820 align:middle line:84%
That screen reader can
also tab from link to link.

00:31:45.820 --> 00:31:47.770 align:middle line:84%
It also can skip from
heading to heading

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if software is formatted
with headings structure.

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So in your links on your website
or in your course content page,

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when you're linking to a
video or some other resource,

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make sure that that alternative
text is descriptive.

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So a person using
a screen reader

00:32:04.510 --> 00:32:06.040 align:middle line:84%
could go through
that page and see

00:32:06.040 --> 00:32:10.520 align:middle line:84%
what it links to without going
through every word on that page

00:32:10.520 --> 00:32:13.090 align:middle line:84%
so that they can see the
crowd surrounding text.

00:32:13.090 --> 00:32:15.430 align:middle line:84%
So when you see a website
that all the links are

00:32:15.430 --> 00:32:17.950 align:middle line:84%
very consistent, and they say
click here, click here, click

00:32:17.950 --> 00:32:20.890 align:middle line:84%
here, that's what a person who's
blind using a screen reader

00:32:20.890 --> 00:32:25.000 align:middle line:84%
will hear if that person
hasn't provided descriptive

00:32:25.000 --> 00:32:26.230 align:middle line:90%
text for those links.

00:32:26.230 --> 00:32:28.510 align:middle line:84%
And the screen reader
then is reading the links

00:32:28.510 --> 00:32:31.870 align:middle line:84%
so that the person can see
the overview and the products

00:32:31.870 --> 00:32:34.540 align:middle line:90%
that it's linking to.

00:32:34.540 --> 00:32:38.020 align:middle line:84%
Similarly, your headings,
like, say, in a Word document,

00:32:38.020 --> 00:32:39.677 align:middle line:90%
use the styles function.

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But if you're creating
other documents

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or in the content page of your
learning management system,

00:32:44.170 --> 00:32:47.140 align:middle line:84%
make sure that the headings are
labeled as heading one, heading

00:32:47.140 --> 00:32:51.160 align:middle line:84%
two, again, as structure
because a screen reader can then

00:32:51.160 --> 00:32:54.310 align:middle line:84%
skip through and read all of
those headings to the user.

00:32:54.310 --> 00:32:57.310 align:middle line:84%
And they can get an idea of
how the page is organized.

00:32:57.310 --> 00:33:01.565 align:middle line:84%
And we've already talked about
computer-generated materials

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may not be
captioned accurately.

00:33:05.690 --> 00:33:07.960 align:middle line:84%
And so we need to
caption our video.

00:33:07.960 --> 00:33:10.460 align:middle line:84%
We need to edit the captions
that are created by a computer,

00:33:10.460 --> 00:33:11.278 align:middle line:90%
and so forth.

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The next presentation,
Terry is going

00:33:12.820 --> 00:33:17.570 align:middle line:84%
to talk about technology
content in more detail.

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But I'm giving an overview.

00:33:19.000 --> 00:33:20.500 align:middle line:84%
The other overview
I'm going to give

00:33:20.500 --> 00:33:22.870 align:middle line:84%
is the principles for
making your course are

00:33:22.870 --> 00:33:27.400 align:middle line:84%
online resources welcoming
and accessible to people

00:33:27.400 --> 00:33:31.000 align:middle line:84%
with disabilities and
other populations.

00:33:31.000 --> 00:33:34.060 align:middle line:84%
Actually, part of a different
project, Access Cyberlearning,

00:33:34.060 --> 00:33:36.940 align:middle line:84%
has done a lot of research in
the area of what principles

00:33:36.940 --> 00:33:40.300 align:middle line:84%
can help guide us in making
IT, like a learning management

00:33:40.300 --> 00:33:42.190 align:middle line:84%
system, but IT that
we create ourselves,

00:33:42.190 --> 00:33:44.320 align:middle line:84%
like videos and content
in an online learning

00:33:44.320 --> 00:33:48.700 align:middle line:84%
course, welcoming and accessible
and usable by everyone.

00:33:48.700 --> 00:33:50.320 align:middle line:90%
And we've landed on three--

00:33:50.320 --> 00:33:53.140 align:middle line:84%
universal design
principles, universal design

00:33:53.140 --> 00:33:55.600 align:middle line:84%
for learning principles,
and the principles

00:33:55.600 --> 00:33:59.560 align:middle line:84%
that underpin the Web Content
Accessibility Guidelines.

00:33:59.560 --> 00:34:02.060 align:middle line:84%
So I'm going to go through
them very briefly here.

00:34:02.060 --> 00:34:04.310 align:middle line:84%
Some of you may know some
of them but not all of them.

00:34:04.310 --> 00:34:09.520 align:middle line:84%
But there's plenty of online
resources for further reading,

00:34:09.520 --> 00:34:11.110 align:middle line:84%
including our
Access Cyberlearning

00:34:11.110 --> 00:34:14.860 align:middle line:84%
whitepaper that Brianna will
be able to put in the follow-up

00:34:14.860 --> 00:34:16.250 align:middle line:90%
email.

00:34:16.250 --> 00:34:19.250 align:middle line:84%
So the principles for
universal design of learning--

00:34:19.250 --> 00:34:23.380 align:middle line:84%
many people just point to those
in making things accessible--

00:34:23.380 --> 00:34:25.060 align:middle line:84%
multiple means of
representation,

00:34:25.060 --> 00:34:26.889 align:middle line:84%
providing multiple
means of engagement

00:34:26.889 --> 00:34:29.715 align:middle line:84%
and multiple means of
action and expression.

00:34:29.715 --> 00:34:31.090 align:middle line:84%
These are developed
by the Center

00:34:31.090 --> 00:34:34.030 align:middle line:84%
for Applied Special
Technology, CAST.

00:34:34.030 --> 00:34:37.250 align:middle line:84%
And they have guidelines
and prints and practices

00:34:37.250 --> 00:34:38.960 align:middle line:90%
and so forth that go with those.

00:34:38.960 --> 00:34:41.620 align:middle line:84%
But we also can look back
at the basic principles

00:34:41.620 --> 00:34:45.040 align:middle line:84%
of universal design that
came before UDL because it

00:34:45.040 --> 00:34:49.600 align:middle line:84%
adds some detail to that
short list of principles.

00:34:49.600 --> 00:34:52.810 align:middle line:84%
So the principles the universal
design are equitable use.

00:34:52.810 --> 00:34:55.570 align:middle line:84%
That means that everybody can
use whatever product you're

00:34:55.570 --> 00:34:56.440 align:middle line:90%
creating.

00:34:56.440 --> 00:34:58.810 align:middle line:84%
Flexibility in use--
multiple ways to do things

00:34:58.810 --> 00:35:00.250 align:middle line:90%
are in that category.

00:35:00.250 --> 00:35:01.810 align:middle line:90%
Simple and intuitive use--

00:35:01.810 --> 00:35:04.210 align:middle line:84%
I sure wish some of our
software would be simpler

00:35:04.210 --> 00:35:05.690 align:middle line:90%
and more intuitive to me.

00:35:05.690 --> 00:35:07.300 align:middle line:90%
I know that.

00:35:07.300 --> 00:35:09.130 align:middle line:84%
Perceptible
information-- everybody

00:35:09.130 --> 00:35:12.740 align:middle line:84%
can perceive what the content
is, for instance, regarding

00:35:12.740 --> 00:35:14.710 align:middle line:84%
of what assistive
technology they're using.

00:35:14.710 --> 00:35:17.770 align:middle line:84%
Tolerance for error,
low physical effort,

00:35:17.770 --> 00:35:19.810 align:middle line:84%
unless you're
teaching bodybuilding.

00:35:19.810 --> 00:35:22.780 align:middle line:84%
Space and size for
approach and use--

00:35:22.780 --> 00:35:24.310 align:middle line:84%
an example would
be a computer lab

00:35:24.310 --> 00:35:27.870 align:middle line:84%
that makes a space
for left-handed users.

00:35:27.870 --> 00:35:30.120 align:middle line:84%
So this is the Center of
Universal Design, again, that

00:35:30.120 --> 00:35:33.190 align:middle line:84%
came up with these principles
that were designed to cover

00:35:33.190 --> 00:35:35.140 align:middle line:90%
any product and environment.

00:35:35.140 --> 00:35:37.810 align:middle line:90%
We could apply this to IT.

00:35:37.810 --> 00:35:40.960 align:middle line:84%
But I've come to
believe that IT is

00:35:40.960 --> 00:35:44.170 align:middle line:84%
important enough and specialized
enough that it's also

00:35:44.170 --> 00:35:47.170 align:middle line:84%
good to look for
specific principles

00:35:47.170 --> 00:35:51.220 align:middle line:84%
in the design of IT, where we
have our third set of print

00:35:51.220 --> 00:35:55.700 align:middle line:84%
principles that guide
us in universal design.

00:35:55.700 --> 00:35:58.780 align:middle line:84%
So underpinning the Web Content
Accessibility Guidelines

00:35:58.780 --> 00:36:03.880 align:middle line:84%
are four principles that tools
and content is perceivable.

00:36:03.880 --> 00:36:06.700 align:middle line:84%
Everybody can
perceive the content.

00:36:06.700 --> 00:36:08.920 align:middle line:84%
That it's operable-- you
can use all the functions

00:36:08.920 --> 00:36:10.930 align:middle line:90%
of whatever the website is.

00:36:10.930 --> 00:36:14.170 align:middle line:84%
It's understandable
for a variety of people

00:36:14.170 --> 00:36:15.700 align:middle line:90%
with different abilities.

00:36:15.700 --> 00:36:19.510 align:middle line:84%
And it's robust, that it doesn't
matter what web browser you

00:36:19.510 --> 00:36:20.810 align:middle line:90%
use, for instance.

00:36:20.810 --> 00:36:23.800 align:middle line:90%
Your product will still work.

00:36:23.800 --> 00:36:26.560 align:middle line:90%
It isn't just used with a PC.

00:36:26.560 --> 00:36:28.240 align:middle line:84%
It can also be used
with a Macintosh.

00:36:28.240 --> 00:36:30.260 align:middle line:84%
That would be the
robust part of it.

00:36:30.260 --> 00:36:32.212 align:middle line:84%
And so we'd like to look
to those principles,

00:36:32.212 --> 00:36:33.670 align:middle line:84%
and there are, as
many of you know,

00:36:33.670 --> 00:36:36.400 align:middle line:84%
a lot of guidelines and
practices that go with that.

00:36:36.400 --> 00:36:38.320 align:middle line:84%
And so the Principles
of Universal Design,

00:36:38.320 --> 00:36:41.740 align:middle line:84%
Universal Design for
Learning, and the Web Content

00:36:41.740 --> 00:36:44.020 align:middle line:84%
Accessibility Guidelines,
those principles

00:36:44.020 --> 00:36:47.000 align:middle line:90%
are important to consider.

00:36:47.000 --> 00:36:50.200 align:middle line:84%
And in our resources
you'll find a lot of detail

00:36:50.200 --> 00:36:51.470 align:middle line:90%
on all of those.

00:36:51.470 --> 00:36:53.860 align:middle line:84%
But in summary, this is the
way I like to look at it.

00:36:53.860 --> 00:36:56.590 align:middle line:84%
You don't need to memorize any
of those principles actually.

00:36:56.590 --> 00:36:58.390 align:middle line:90%
I look at it in this way.

00:36:58.390 --> 00:37:01.990 align:middle line:84%
You provide whatever you're
doing multiple ways to learn,

00:37:01.990 --> 00:37:04.570 align:middle line:84%
and that includes just
gaining access to content,

00:37:04.570 --> 00:37:06.430 align:middle line:90%
but also learning in a class.

00:37:06.430 --> 00:37:08.410 align:middle line:84%
Multiple ways to do
that-- using a video,

00:37:08.410 --> 00:37:10.780 align:middle line:84%
using printed
materials, and so forth.

00:37:10.780 --> 00:37:13.720 align:middle line:84%
You provide multiple
ways to demonstrate

00:37:13.720 --> 00:37:17.170 align:middle line:84%
that learning, for instance, in
a training or an online course.

00:37:17.170 --> 00:37:19.008 align:middle line:84%
How is this participant
showing that they

00:37:19.008 --> 00:37:20.050 align:middle line:90%
have learned the content?

00:37:20.050 --> 00:37:22.510 align:middle line:84%
If you're only providing
multiple choice tests,

00:37:22.510 --> 00:37:25.510 align:middle line:84%
look at alternative ways to
test what they've learned

00:37:25.510 --> 00:37:28.370 align:middle line:90%
and multiple ways to interact.

00:37:28.370 --> 00:37:30.190 align:middle line:84%
And it's also
important to ensure

00:37:30.190 --> 00:37:33.370 align:middle line:84%
that each action and resource
is accessible to people

00:37:33.370 --> 00:37:34.880 align:middle line:90%
with disabilities.

00:37:34.880 --> 00:37:36.370 align:middle line:84%
For example, some
people will say

00:37:36.370 --> 00:37:39.072 align:middle line:84%
they're applying universal
design when they say, well,

00:37:39.072 --> 00:37:40.780 align:middle line:84%
I've got a video that
shows some content,

00:37:40.780 --> 00:37:44.480 align:middle line:84%
and then I've got a PDF
file here that does as well.

00:37:44.480 --> 00:37:47.740 align:middle line:84%
And so that's it, multiple
ways to do things, right?

00:37:47.740 --> 00:37:50.325 align:middle line:84%
Well, that's a step in the
right direction perhaps.

00:37:50.325 --> 00:37:51.700 align:middle line:84%
But you should
look at the video,

00:37:51.700 --> 00:37:54.910 align:middle line:84%
and make it accessible by
using captions and audio

00:37:54.910 --> 00:37:56.405 align:middle line:90%
descriptions perhaps.

00:37:56.405 --> 00:37:58.030 align:middle line:84%
And you should look
at that PDF and ask

00:37:58.030 --> 00:37:59.630 align:middle line:84%
if that's accessible
to everyone,

00:37:59.630 --> 00:38:01.680 align:middle line:84%
including people
using screen readers.

00:38:01.680 --> 00:38:04.480 align:middle line:84%
And so it's not enough just
providing different options.

00:38:04.480 --> 00:38:06.970 align:middle line:84%
Those options should
be accessible in part

00:38:06.970 --> 00:38:10.780 align:middle line:84%
because you want your user to
be able to choose the option.

00:38:10.780 --> 00:38:15.730 align:middle line:84%
You don't want to pre-choose it
by providing distinct options,

00:38:15.730 --> 00:38:19.775 align:middle line:90%
but some people can't use both.

00:38:19.775 --> 00:38:22.150 align:middle line:84%
I'm going to quickly go through
a handout that's actually

00:38:22.150 --> 00:38:24.150 align:middle line:90%
going to be on the resources.

00:38:24.150 --> 00:38:27.190 align:middle line:84%
And this handout is a one I put
together for faculty, actually,

00:38:27.190 --> 00:38:30.250 align:middle line:84%
on 20 tips for making an
accessible online course.

00:38:30.250 --> 00:38:33.310 align:middle line:84%
And I did this because people
were getting overwhelmed.

00:38:33.310 --> 00:38:36.000 align:middle line:84%
Faculty were getting overwhelmed
with that they needed to do,

00:38:36.000 --> 00:38:36.960 align:middle line:90%
and paralyzed.

00:38:36.960 --> 00:38:38.710 align:middle line:84%
And it's like, so they
didn't do anything.

00:38:38.710 --> 00:38:40.043 align:middle line:90%
So I don't have time to do that.

00:38:40.043 --> 00:38:41.890 align:middle line:90%
I can't do that.

00:38:41.890 --> 00:38:43.600 align:middle line:90%
Anyway, so I put this together.

00:38:43.600 --> 00:38:50.560 align:middle line:84%
In the online version that
you'll have a URL for,

00:38:50.560 --> 00:38:54.020 align:middle line:84%
you also have links to resources
for each of these things

00:38:54.020 --> 00:38:55.600 align:middle line:90%
that I'm going to present now.

00:38:55.600 --> 00:38:57.955 align:middle line:84%
And so it's a pretty
rich resource.

00:38:57.955 --> 00:39:01.740 align:middle line:90%


00:39:01.740 --> 00:39:05.460 align:middle line:84%
So it has nine tips that are
about web pages, documents,

00:39:05.460 --> 00:39:07.560 align:middle line:84%
images, videos,
what Terry is going

00:39:07.560 --> 00:39:10.980 align:middle line:90%
to talk about, real soon here.

00:39:10.980 --> 00:39:13.170 align:middle line:84%
But then, the rest
of it is 11 tips,

00:39:13.170 --> 00:39:15.220 align:middle line:84%
and it's about
instructional methods.

00:39:15.220 --> 00:39:20.010 align:middle line:84%
So a lot of this is in the
hands and in the control

00:39:20.010 --> 00:39:23.510 align:middle line:84%
of the instructor or
the designer of a course

00:39:23.510 --> 00:39:26.430 align:middle line:84%
or of a website,
for that matter.

00:39:26.430 --> 00:39:28.770 align:middle line:84%
It doesn't require
high-level technical skills.

00:39:28.770 --> 00:39:31.020 align:middle line:84%
You will see quickly,
even in my list,

00:39:31.020 --> 00:39:35.130 align:middle line:84%
but also more so when Terry
talks, is that we need

00:39:35.130 --> 00:39:37.200 align:middle line:90%
IT accessibility specialists.

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All of us aren't going to learn
all these technical details.

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And so you need on
your campus somebody

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that can provide that
resource as well.

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So again, the resources will be
provided in the online version.

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So let me just go
through quickly.

00:39:49.728 --> 00:39:51.270 align:middle line:84%
I'd like to start
with something that

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is, really, you can't do this?

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Things that faculty
absolutely can do--

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clear, consistent layouts
and organization schemes.

00:39:59.190 --> 00:40:01.050 align:middle line:84%
What I find people,
particularly now

00:40:01.050 --> 00:40:03.373 align:middle line:84%
when they're turning their
on-site courses online,

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they're pretty much taking
resources from different things

00:40:05.790 --> 00:40:07.080 align:middle line:90%
they used before.

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And they don't go
back and make them

00:40:08.730 --> 00:40:13.050 align:middle line:84%
consistent in their format, and
that can be really confusing,

00:40:13.050 --> 00:40:15.430 align:middle line:84%
particularly to a student
with a disability that

00:40:15.430 --> 00:40:18.150 align:middle line:84%
has a hard time organizing
that content on their own.

00:40:18.150 --> 00:40:21.390 align:middle line:84%
And so really we really look
back and say is it clear?

00:40:21.390 --> 00:40:22.650 align:middle line:90%
Is it consistent?

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Do I use the same
organizational as schemes

00:40:25.650 --> 00:40:28.740 align:middle line:84%
when I'm working
in those resources

00:40:28.740 --> 00:40:30.973 align:middle line:84%
that I'm sharing
with my students?

00:40:30.973 --> 00:40:32.640 align:middle line:84%
Structured headings,
I already mentioned

00:40:32.640 --> 00:40:34.188 align:middle line:90%
why that's important--

00:40:34.188 --> 00:40:35.730 align:middle line:84%
so that someone
using a screen reader

00:40:35.730 --> 00:40:37.890 align:middle line:84%
can go from heading
to heading and see

00:40:37.890 --> 00:40:40.470 align:middle line:84%
the organization of the
document or the content

00:40:40.470 --> 00:40:43.830 align:middle line:84%
in your page on a learning
management system.

00:40:43.830 --> 00:40:46.230 align:middle line:84%
Descriptive wording
for hyperlinks-- again,

00:40:46.230 --> 00:40:47.850 align:middle line:84%
making them descriptive
so the screen

00:40:47.850 --> 00:40:51.260 align:middle line:84%
reader can read with the
resource is you're going to.

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Terrill will talk about
accessible documents.

00:40:54.440 --> 00:41:00.390 align:middle line:84%
My advice to faculty is
just don't create PDFs.

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PDFs can be made
accessible, absolutely,

00:41:04.680 --> 00:41:07.042 align:middle line:84%
but there are some
difficulties along the line.

00:41:07.042 --> 00:41:09.000 align:middle line:84%
And they're difficult to
remediate if you don't

00:41:09.000 --> 00:41:11.130 align:middle line:90%
do that right in the beginning.

00:41:11.130 --> 00:41:14.430 align:middle line:84%
And particularly to
avoid scanned in PDFs.

00:41:14.430 --> 00:41:16.530 align:middle line:90%
Accessible HTML is ideal.

00:41:16.530 --> 00:41:18.420 align:middle line:84%
And that is what you're
doing, by the way,

00:41:18.420 --> 00:41:22.770 align:middle line:84%
when you're putting in content
one of your content pages

00:41:22.770 --> 00:41:24.480 align:middle line:90%
in a learning management system.

00:41:24.480 --> 00:41:27.420 align:middle line:84%
Use that for your
primary content.

00:41:27.420 --> 00:41:29.580 align:middle line:84%
On our website, if you
notice some of our resources

00:41:29.580 --> 00:41:32.670 align:middle line:84%
that we'll link to, we use
PDFs, but we don't use it

00:41:32.670 --> 00:41:34.890 align:middle line:90%
as a primary source of content.

00:41:34.890 --> 00:41:37.620 align:middle line:84%
So our handouts-- and we
have about a hundred of them,

00:41:37.620 --> 00:41:40.530 align:middle line:90%
I think, different publications.

00:41:40.530 --> 00:41:44.370 align:middle line:84%
We put the accessible one,
the most accessible one first,

00:41:44.370 --> 00:41:45.660 align:middle line:90%
and that's HTML.

00:41:45.660 --> 00:41:50.100 align:middle line:84%
We make sure that the web page
is fully accessibly designed.

00:41:50.100 --> 00:41:53.580 align:middle line:84%
But then, you'll notice
we have a link to the PDF.

00:41:53.580 --> 00:41:55.230 align:middle line:84%
It's accessible too,
if you go there,

00:41:55.230 --> 00:42:00.450 align:middle line:84%
because we like to
do the best of this.

00:42:00.450 --> 00:42:03.180 align:middle line:90%
So we have that as well.

00:42:03.180 --> 00:42:05.490 align:middle line:84%
But we're primarily
provided it for people

00:42:05.490 --> 00:42:06.820 align:middle line:90%
who want to print it.

00:42:06.820 --> 00:42:08.760 align:middle line:84%
And so you can get
a nice printed copy.

00:42:08.760 --> 00:42:10.320 align:middle line:84%
We use that all
the time when we're

00:42:10.320 --> 00:42:13.620 align:middle line:84%
giving on-site presentations and
we just want to have a handout.

00:42:13.620 --> 00:42:16.440 align:middle line:84%
You just like it to look
fairly professional.

00:42:16.440 --> 00:42:20.960 align:middle line:84%
And so we use that
that's a good use of PDF.

00:42:20.960 --> 00:42:22.320 align:middle line:90%
In an online course--

00:42:22.320 --> 00:42:23.330 align:middle line:90%
I teach online.

00:42:23.330 --> 00:42:27.480 align:middle line:84%
And the only time I provide
an attached document at all

00:42:27.480 --> 00:42:30.690 align:middle line:84%
is for the syllabus
because students actually

00:42:30.690 --> 00:42:33.240 align:middle line:84%
want sometimes to
download that document.

00:42:33.240 --> 00:42:35.340 align:middle line:84%
Otherwise, I put
everything in HTML.

00:42:35.340 --> 00:42:39.630 align:middle line:84%
And in that case, I put it in
the content page so it's HTML.

00:42:39.630 --> 00:42:42.030 align:middle line:84%
And then, I have an attachment,
which is a Word document.

00:42:42.030 --> 00:42:43.950 align:middle line:84%
That way, the students
can take that document.

00:42:43.950 --> 00:42:46.320 align:middle line:84%
They can edit the
syllabus to suit them,

00:42:46.320 --> 00:42:48.570 align:middle line:84%
take out some material on
the syllabus that doesn't

00:42:48.570 --> 00:42:50.310 align:middle line:90%
apply to them and so forth.

00:42:50.310 --> 00:42:53.640 align:middle line:84%
And I actually encourage
them to do that.

00:42:53.640 --> 00:42:55.060 align:middle line:84%
Some people will
say, well, yeah,

00:42:55.060 --> 00:42:56.250 align:middle line:84%
but there are all
these other PDFs.

00:42:56.250 --> 00:42:56.920 align:middle line:90%
What about that?

00:42:56.920 --> 00:42:59.280 align:middle line:84%
Well, if you're linking
to other people's PDFs,

00:42:59.280 --> 00:43:01.260 align:middle line:84%
it's worth looking to
see if that article might

00:43:01.260 --> 00:43:04.950 align:middle line:84%
be available in a HTML
format or other format that's

00:43:04.950 --> 00:43:07.380 align:middle line:90%
more accessible.

00:43:07.380 --> 00:43:11.040 align:middle line:84%
And you could contact
the company or the source

00:43:11.040 --> 00:43:12.970 align:middle line:84%
to see if they make
things more accessible.

00:43:12.970 --> 00:43:15.240 align:middle line:84%
But if you don't even deal
with that aspect of it,

00:43:15.240 --> 00:43:16.950 align:middle line:84%
if you haven't
created more PDFs,

00:43:16.950 --> 00:43:19.920 align:middle line:84%
you haven't given the
disability services office

00:43:19.920 --> 00:43:21.510 align:middle line:90%
more resources to remediate.

00:43:21.510 --> 00:43:24.270 align:middle line:84%
They'll just have to
remediate those others.

00:43:24.270 --> 00:43:26.153 align:middle line:84%
Text descriptions of
content and images--

00:43:26.153 --> 00:43:27.570 align:middle line:84%
we talked about
important that is.

00:43:27.570 --> 00:43:29.850 align:middle line:84%
And learning management
systems will generally

00:43:29.850 --> 00:43:32.260 align:middle line:84%
remind you to do that and
sometimes tell you why,

00:43:32.260 --> 00:43:34.080 align:middle line:90%
anytime you post an image.

00:43:34.080 --> 00:43:36.960 align:middle line:84%
Large, bold fonts, uncluttered
pages, plain backgrounds--

00:43:36.960 --> 00:43:39.360 align:middle line:90%
I'm demonstrating that today.

00:43:39.360 --> 00:43:41.220 align:middle line:84%
High contrast
color combinations,

00:43:41.220 --> 00:43:44.130 align:middle line:84%
problematic ones for those
who are colorblind avoided--

00:43:44.130 --> 00:43:46.380 align:middle line:84%
and you'll see in
the online version

00:43:46.380 --> 00:43:48.090 align:middle line:84%
I point to some
resources we can check

00:43:48.090 --> 00:43:51.050 align:middle line:84%
to see what colors
are problematic.

00:43:51.050 --> 00:43:53.670 align:middle line:84%
Green and red that's one
that's a combination that's

00:43:53.670 --> 00:43:55.650 align:middle line:84%
quite problematic
for many people,

00:43:55.650 --> 00:43:57.990 align:middle line:84%
but there are other
combinations as well.

00:43:57.990 --> 00:43:59.700 align:middle line:84%
Content and navigation
is accessible

00:43:59.700 --> 00:44:03.710 align:middle line:84%
using the keyboard alone, and
we learned why that's important.

00:44:03.710 --> 00:44:07.470 align:middle line:84%
Videos are captioned and
audio described and so forth.

00:44:07.470 --> 00:44:09.940 align:middle line:84%
So that's the technology
part, and Terrill is

00:44:09.940 --> 00:44:11.610 align:middle line:90%
going to elaborate on all that.

00:44:11.610 --> 00:44:13.970 align:middle line:84%
But here's some as far
as instructional methods.

00:44:13.970 --> 00:44:16.280 align:middle line:84%
Address a broad range
of technical skills.

00:44:16.280 --> 00:44:19.600 align:middle line:84%
In my class, the
class I'm teaching

00:44:19.600 --> 00:44:24.470 align:middle line:84%
at another institution,
but it's in Blackboard--

00:44:24.470 --> 00:44:26.630 align:middle line:84%
I hear all the time
from instructors, well,

00:44:26.630 --> 00:44:29.810 align:middle line:84%
all the students know how to do
Blackboard because that's

00:44:29.810 --> 00:44:31.270 align:middle line:90%
our standard at our institution.

00:44:31.270 --> 00:44:33.890 align:middle line:90%
Ours is Canvas on our campus.

00:44:33.890 --> 00:44:36.200 align:middle line:84%
Well, what I come
back with, my pushback

00:44:36.200 --> 00:44:38.690 align:middle line:84%
is, well, what if
it's a first class

00:44:38.690 --> 00:44:41.120 align:middle line:84%
they're taking on
Canvas or Blackboard?

00:44:41.120 --> 00:44:43.040 align:middle line:84%
You can point them
to the help screens,

00:44:43.040 --> 00:44:44.670 align:middle line:90%
but there's so many items.

00:44:44.670 --> 00:44:47.450 align:middle line:84%
So what I do is I say, if
this is your first time using

00:44:47.450 --> 00:44:50.630 align:middle line:84%
Blackboard or another
class I teach on Canvas,

00:44:50.630 --> 00:44:52.555 align:middle line:84%
here's a good place
to get started

00:44:52.555 --> 00:44:54.680 align:middle line:84%
in learning about the
capabilities of this learning

00:44:54.680 --> 00:44:55.790 align:middle line:90%
management system.

00:44:55.790 --> 00:44:59.030 align:middle line:84%
I don't send them to the
whole, huge collection

00:44:59.030 --> 00:45:01.220 align:middle line:90%
of help options.

00:45:01.220 --> 00:45:04.088 align:middle line:84%
I send it to one or
two to get started

00:45:04.088 --> 00:45:05.630 align:middle line:84%
in the things that
are most important

00:45:05.630 --> 00:45:08.450 align:middle line:84%
in my particular class
for them to know.

00:45:08.450 --> 00:45:12.560 align:middle line:84%
And so you can address
different technology skills,

00:45:12.560 --> 00:45:15.050 align:middle line:84%
in this case a lower technology
skill than you would hope,

00:45:15.050 --> 00:45:18.080 align:middle line:84%
in that class without slowing
down the rest of the class.

00:45:18.080 --> 00:45:20.450 align:middle line:84%
It also tells a student
you're welcome here.

00:45:20.450 --> 00:45:22.280 align:middle line:84%
I assume students
would come and not

00:45:22.280 --> 00:45:24.120 align:middle line:90%
have those technical skills.

00:45:24.120 --> 00:45:26.350 align:middle line:84%
Make sure content is
presented in multiple ways.

00:45:26.350 --> 00:45:28.130 align:middle line:90%
We talked about that.

00:45:28.130 --> 00:45:31.910 align:middle line:84%
Make sure that you spell
acronyms and jargon

00:45:31.910 --> 00:45:33.690 align:middle line:90%
and define it.

00:45:33.690 --> 00:45:36.430 align:middle line:84%
I like to use the expression
low hanging fruit a lot.

00:45:36.430 --> 00:45:38.900 align:middle line:84%
And in this one class, I
teach, I use that expression.

00:45:38.900 --> 00:45:42.740 align:middle line:84%
And then, I say if you haven't
heard that expression before,

00:45:42.740 --> 00:45:45.080 align:middle line:84%
what I'm referring to is
some of the simpler things

00:45:45.080 --> 00:45:48.350 align:middle line:84%
that you can do to make
your website accessible.

00:45:48.350 --> 00:45:51.500 align:middle line:84%
And so I don't need
to survey the class

00:45:51.500 --> 00:45:54.060 align:middle line:84%
to know if people
know that word.

00:45:54.060 --> 00:45:57.230 align:middle line:84%
Another way people do it is
they just have links to some

00:45:57.230 --> 00:45:58.620 align:middle line:90%
of the words in their class.

00:45:58.620 --> 00:46:00.320 align:middle line:84%
And so a student
can go there if they

00:46:00.320 --> 00:46:02.030 align:middle line:90%
don't understand the jargon.

00:46:02.030 --> 00:46:04.190 align:middle line:84%
Instructions and
expectations clear--

00:46:04.190 --> 00:46:06.890 align:middle line:84%
when I work with students with
disabilities, often in surveys

00:46:06.890 --> 00:46:10.070 align:middle line:84%
and so forth, and disability
service providers often

00:46:10.070 --> 00:46:12.050 align:middle line:84%
say one of the
biggest problems is

00:46:12.050 --> 00:46:15.230 align:middle line:84%
that instructions and
expectations are not clear.

00:46:15.230 --> 00:46:17.930 align:middle line:84%
You can include all of your
assignments in your syllabus,

00:46:17.930 --> 00:46:20.960 align:middle line:84%
for instance, or at
least in another document

00:46:20.960 --> 00:46:22.670 align:middle line:84%
toward the beginning
of the class,

00:46:22.670 --> 00:46:25.700 align:middle line:84%
and make sure you have a
rubric for your grading,

00:46:25.700 --> 00:46:27.710 align:middle line:84%
but also the instructions
are very clear what

00:46:27.710 --> 00:46:29.570 align:middle line:90%
you expect the student to do.

00:46:29.570 --> 00:46:33.510 align:middle line:84%
Examples and assignments are
relevant to a diverse audience.

00:46:33.510 --> 00:46:36.260 align:middle line:84%
Outlines and other scaffolding
tools are provided.

00:46:36.260 --> 00:46:39.060 align:middle line:84%
How can you somehow help your
students get to the level

00:46:39.060 --> 00:46:41.720 align:middle line:90%
that you want them to be at?

00:46:41.720 --> 00:46:43.470 align:middle line:84%
If they're writing a
term paper, could you

00:46:43.470 --> 00:46:45.540 align:middle line:84%
provide an example
of a term paper

00:46:45.540 --> 00:46:50.310 align:middle line:84%
someone else has written, as
a scaffolding device and also

00:46:50.310 --> 00:46:53.010 align:middle line:84%
a link to a document
that tells them

00:46:53.010 --> 00:46:56.160 align:middle line:84%
how to create term
papers in case

00:46:56.160 --> 00:46:57.880 align:middle line:84%
they need some more
help in that regard.

00:46:57.880 --> 00:46:59.730 align:middle line:84%
So you're not lowering
your standards.

00:46:59.730 --> 00:47:02.970 align:middle line:84%
You're just helping
students be more successful.

00:47:02.970 --> 00:47:05.440 align:middle line:84%
Giving them adequate
opportunities for practice--

00:47:05.440 --> 00:47:07.530 align:middle line:84%
so you don't want to
overwhelm people that don't

00:47:07.530 --> 00:47:09.720 align:middle line:90%
need as much extra practice.

00:47:09.720 --> 00:47:12.435 align:middle line:84%
You can include, for
instance, a link to-- you

00:47:12.435 --> 00:47:13.935 align:middle line:90%
can call it optional.

00:47:13.935 --> 00:47:15.810 align:middle line:84%
If you'd like to do
market work in this area,

00:47:15.810 --> 00:47:18.710 align:middle line:84%
I suggest, or here are some
more examples or whatever.

00:47:18.710 --> 00:47:20.340 align:middle line:84%
Just put optional
there so that people

00:47:20.340 --> 00:47:24.270 align:middle line:84%
don't have to go to it if
they don't want to or need to.

00:47:24.270 --> 00:47:27.810 align:middle line:84%
Provide adequate time for
activities, projects and tests.

00:47:27.810 --> 00:47:29.910 align:middle line:84%
Getting your assignments
in the syllabus

00:47:29.910 --> 00:47:31.995 align:middle line:84%
actually helps do
that because students

00:47:31.995 --> 00:47:34.620 align:middle line:84%
know what's going to be expected
through the rest of the class.

00:47:34.620 --> 00:47:36.000 align:middle line:84%
You also can put
your syllabus up

00:47:36.000 --> 00:47:38.520 align:middle line:84%
early so that they
can take a look at it.

00:47:38.520 --> 00:47:42.270 align:middle line:84%
Provide feedback on parts
of projects or term papers,

00:47:42.270 --> 00:47:46.000 align:middle line:84%
and then give corrective
opportunities with some credit.

00:47:46.000 --> 00:47:47.670 align:middle line:84%
So students at the
end of your class

00:47:47.670 --> 00:47:53.850 align:middle line:84%
don't turn in their project and
have a totally misunderstood

00:47:53.850 --> 00:47:55.690 align:middle line:84%
understanding of what
that project was,

00:47:55.690 --> 00:47:59.850 align:middle line:84%
and you have to figure
out how to grade them.

00:47:59.850 --> 00:48:03.030 align:middle line:84%
Options for communicating and
collaborating-- on a syllabus,

00:48:03.030 --> 00:48:07.200 align:middle line:84%
I'll say you can meet with
me one-on-one at any time.

00:48:07.200 --> 00:48:10.860 align:middle line:90%
And I like to meet by Zoom.

00:48:10.860 --> 00:48:15.030 align:middle line:84%
But rather than say that,
I say to myself, Sheryl,

00:48:15.030 --> 00:48:16.900 align:middle line:90%
it's not about you.

00:48:16.900 --> 00:48:19.080 align:middle line:84%
It's about them,
and they may have

00:48:19.080 --> 00:48:20.640 align:middle line:90%
a different opinion about that.

00:48:20.640 --> 00:48:23.070 align:middle line:90%
So I say we can meet one-on-on.

00:48:23.070 --> 00:48:26.610 align:middle line:84%
We can use Skype, Zoom,
email, the discussion

00:48:26.610 --> 00:48:30.190 align:middle line:84%
board in our learning
management system, whatever.

00:48:30.190 --> 00:48:33.240 align:middle line:84%
So just let me know
how you'd like to meet.

00:48:33.240 --> 00:48:35.700 align:middle line:84%
It also sends that message
right at the beginning

00:48:35.700 --> 00:48:39.090 align:middle line:84%
of the syllabus that I expect
to be flexible in what we do

00:48:39.090 --> 00:48:41.760 align:middle line:90%
and how we can communicate.

00:48:41.760 --> 00:48:45.960 align:middle line:84%
And the last one, options for
demonstrating their learning

00:48:45.960 --> 00:48:51.157 align:middle line:84%
using portfolios, tests, term
papers, projects, group work,

00:48:51.157 --> 00:48:53.490 align:middle line:84%
rather they have just a couple
of things that people get

00:48:53.490 --> 00:48:54.980 align:middle line:90%
graded on.

00:48:54.980 --> 00:48:59.580 align:middle line:84%
So like I said, that's kind of
a quick overview of the topic.

00:48:59.580 --> 00:49:04.290 align:middle line:84%
And Terrill will now fill in
the details for those first nine

00:49:04.290 --> 00:49:06.300 align:middle line:90%
in the IT area.

00:49:06.300 --> 00:49:08.790 align:middle line:84%
So when I look at
universal design,

00:49:08.790 --> 00:49:11.970 align:middle line:84%
I think of it as an
attitude, first of all,

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that the attitude
is, well I expect

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it's my responsibility
to think about how

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I can make what I'm doing and
be inclusive of a lot of people

00:49:21.270 --> 00:49:23.130 align:middle line:84%
with a lot of different
characteristics.

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It's an attitude.

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You own that, but
that's something

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you're going to work on.

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It's a framework,
and so there are

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step-by-step things you can do.

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There's a there is a definition.

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There are guidelines,
and principles,

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and there are practices
that are well-established.

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And that's the framework
that you're using.

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And you did develop
some process where

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you continue to use
that framework as you

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develop your materials.

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It's a goal that
whatever you're doing

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is welcoming and
accessible to everyone.

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But it's not one
that we probably

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will ever totally reach.

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It's just that we can
get better and better

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as we apply more practices.

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And it's a process,
and part of the process

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is being proactive, where you do
the universal design as you're

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doing other practices.

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For instance, there are
many proven practices

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in how to deliver
good online learning.

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Many of those articles-- most
of them, I'd say, that you read,

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they don't address
disability at all.

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And some of the practices
they're suggesting

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aren't even accessible to
people with disabilities.

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But you can combine
some of those ideas

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and make them inclusive using
universal design to come up

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with the practices
you use in your class.

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It'd be nice if
they were tested,

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but they aren't
necessarily going to be.

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So universal design,
it values diversity.

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That's important.

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It also values equity.

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And it values inclusion, that
people are working together.

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One example is you could give
an assignment in small groups.

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And they're going to
create a project together

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to ask that group as their
first item of business

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to decide how they're going to
communicate with one another.

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And so that way,
they have to provide

00:51:05.130 --> 00:51:07.782 align:middle line:84%
it to be accessible to
everybody in the group,

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and you don't have
to dictate that.

00:51:09.240 --> 00:51:12.727 align:middle line:84%
And it gives them an opportunity
to talk about differences

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and figure out what
people want to do.

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And it doesn't require that
a disability is disclosed.

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A person might just say, well
I prefer that we use email,

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even though it in part
is because some other way

00:51:22.740 --> 00:51:25.050 align:middle line:84%
of communicating is
difficult for them.

00:51:25.050 --> 00:51:27.420 align:middle line:84%
It promotes best practices,
and it absolutely

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does not lower expectations.

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Faculty need to
hear that more than once.

00:51:31.740 --> 00:51:35.158 align:middle line:84%
It's proactive, and it can
be implemented incrementally.

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Hopefully, every time
you offer the course,

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it's a little bit
more accessible

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than it was the last time.

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And it benefits everyone
or most everyone.

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It shouldn't interfere with
the experience of people

00:51:47.600 --> 00:51:52.350 align:middle line:84%
in your course, and it minimizes
the need for accommodations.

00:51:52.350 --> 00:51:53.850 align:middle line:84%
Again, like I said
at the beginning,

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there's nothing wrong
with accommodations.

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We absolutely on our campuses
should provide accommodations.

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But it's my feeling that we
provide more than we need.

00:52:03.890 --> 00:52:07.100 align:middle line:90%


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In some ways, you can look
at what accommodations

00:52:09.242 --> 00:52:09.950 align:middle line:90%
we are providing.

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I mentioned earlier remediation
of PDFs and captioning videos

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there too.

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And with techniques that
Terry will talk about,

00:52:18.260 --> 00:52:20.480 align:middle line:84%
what about if you just
captioned all your videos,

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and you didn't use PDFs, and
you made whatever documents

00:52:23.590 --> 00:52:24.897 align:middle line:90%
you are using accessible?

00:52:24.897 --> 00:52:27.230 align:middle line:84%
Then they wouldn't need that
accommodations, would they?

00:52:27.230 --> 00:52:30.660 align:middle line:84%
And so that's important
to consider as well.

00:52:30.660 --> 00:52:32.420 align:middle line:84%
And if you're just
getting started,

00:52:32.420 --> 00:52:34.580 align:middle line:84%
you might want to focus on
the first week of class.

00:52:34.580 --> 00:52:36.920 align:middle line:84%
Make sure your
syllabus is accessible.

00:52:36.920 --> 00:52:40.010 align:middle line:84%
Make sure your videos are
accessible, and your documents

00:52:40.010 --> 00:52:41.553 align:middle line:90%
for the first week or two.

00:52:41.553 --> 00:52:43.970 align:middle line:84%
At least then, you're giving
the disabled student services

00:52:43.970 --> 00:52:46.250 align:middle line:84%
office and the
student a little time

00:52:46.250 --> 00:52:48.000 align:middle line:84%
to make the rest of
the course accessible.

00:52:48.000 --> 00:52:49.375 align:middle line:84%
So that's not a
perfect solution,

00:52:49.375 --> 00:52:52.745 align:middle line:84%
but you can prioritize
what you do and when.

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I'm going to close with
a quote that I really

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like from a Vietnamese
Buddhist monk.

00:52:57.470 --> 00:53:00.740 align:middle line:84%
When you plant lettuce,
if it does not grow well,

00:53:00.740 --> 00:53:02.090 align:middle line:90%
you don't blame the lettuce.

00:53:02.090 --> 00:53:04.460 align:middle line:84%
You look for reasons
it is not doing well.

00:53:04.460 --> 00:53:08.480 align:middle line:84%
It may need fertilizer or
more water or less sun.

00:53:08.480 --> 00:53:14.210 align:middle line:84%
So again, the idea is you
first look at the product

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before you look
at the individual

00:53:16.130 --> 00:53:20.090 align:middle line:84%
and consider their limitations
or their functions,

00:53:20.090 --> 00:53:21.920 align:middle line:90%
capabilities.

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And so you look at
the product first

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is the idea with
universal design.

00:53:27.850 --> 00:53:30.080 align:middle line:84%
So that's universal
design in a nutshell.

00:53:30.080 --> 00:53:34.320 align:middle line:84%
Let's see if we
have any questions.

00:53:34.320 --> 00:53:37.770 align:middle line:84%
I also will point out I tried
to apply these practices

00:53:37.770 --> 00:53:38.903 align:middle line:90%
in the presentation.

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And one example
of that is did you

00:53:40.320 --> 00:53:43.170 align:middle line:84%
notice when I had that cute
little red coffeepot up

00:53:43.170 --> 00:53:45.990 align:middle line:84%
on the screen, the only thing
I did to describe it, really,

00:53:45.990 --> 00:53:48.240 align:middle line:84%
was saying that the
spout and the handle

00:53:48.240 --> 00:53:49.590 align:middle line:90%
were on the same side.

00:53:49.590 --> 00:53:51.390 align:middle line:84%
In my view, that's
all you really

00:53:51.390 --> 00:53:54.270 align:middle line:84%
needed to know about that image
if you can't see the image.

00:53:54.270 --> 00:53:55.978 align:middle line:84%
I didn't want to go
into great detail

00:53:55.978 --> 00:53:57.520 align:middle line:84%
because it was
irrelevant that it was

00:53:57.520 --> 00:54:01.700 align:middle line:90%
this, cool bright red color.

00:54:01.700 --> 00:54:03.440 align:middle line:84%
So Brianna, do we
have any questions?

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BRIANNA BLASER: We don't.

00:54:03.860 --> 00:54:06.170 align:middle line:84%
I just want to encourage
folks, if you have questions,

00:54:06.170 --> 00:54:09.680 align:middle line:84%
to go ahead and type them in
the chat or raise your hand.

00:54:09.680 --> 00:54:12.390 align:middle line:90%


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SHERYL BURGSTAHLER: OK, so
while we're waiting for that,

00:54:14.930 --> 00:54:19.310 align:middle line:84%
I have a few examples of
applying universal design.

00:54:19.310 --> 00:54:22.100 align:middle line:84%
And one I've
mentioned is a course

00:54:22.100 --> 00:54:24.380 align:middle line:84%
I teach at City University
of New York, which

00:54:24.380 --> 00:54:28.400 align:middle line:84%
is universal design
in higher education.

00:54:28.400 --> 00:54:31.430 align:middle line:84%
One of the activities that
the students need to do

00:54:31.430 --> 00:54:35.690 align:middle line:84%
is go off and look
for on the internet--

00:54:35.690 --> 00:54:37.993 align:middle line:84%
I have a lot of internet
activities in this class.

00:54:37.993 --> 00:54:40.160 align:middle line:84%
Look on the internet and
try to find an image that's

00:54:40.160 --> 00:54:43.430 align:middle line:84%
not labeled as
universal design but is

00:54:43.430 --> 00:54:45.440 align:middle line:84%
a good example of
a universal design

00:54:45.440 --> 00:54:49.120 align:middle line:84%
feature in a
physical environment.

00:54:49.120 --> 00:54:54.700 align:middle line:84%
And then, write in
the discussion forum

00:54:54.700 --> 00:55:00.130 align:middle line:84%
a message to the whole group
with an attached image,

00:55:00.130 --> 00:55:02.620 align:middle line:84%
and explain why you
think that image

00:55:02.620 --> 00:55:05.795 align:middle line:84%
is an example of a
universal design feature.

00:55:05.795 --> 00:55:07.170 align:middle line:84%
Now, I looked at
that assignment.

00:55:07.170 --> 00:55:08.000 align:middle line:90%
I go that's kind of cool.

00:55:08.000 --> 00:55:09.320 align:middle line:84%
They'll get to do
something visual

00:55:09.320 --> 00:55:10.695 align:middle line:84%
and be out there
on the internet.

00:55:10.695 --> 00:55:14.165 align:middle line:84%
I try to have action and almost
like field trips in my class.

00:55:14.165 --> 00:55:16.160 align:middle line:84%
And so I really
like that activity.

00:55:16.160 --> 00:55:18.870 align:middle line:84%
But I pause for a minute, as
I do with all my activities,

00:55:18.870 --> 00:55:21.250 align:middle line:84%
and I said, well, who
wouldn't be able to do this?

00:55:21.250 --> 00:55:23.910 align:middle line:84%
Well, the most obvious
one is a person

00:55:23.910 --> 00:55:26.230 align:middle line:84%
who is blind and can't
see those images.

00:55:26.230 --> 00:55:28.753 align:middle line:84%
Now, if everybody
used alternative text,

00:55:28.753 --> 00:55:29.670 align:middle line:90%
it might be all right.

00:55:29.670 --> 00:55:31.795 align:middle line:84%
But they also might not
put in the alternative text

00:55:31.795 --> 00:55:35.010 align:middle line:84%
some of the features that I'm
looking for them to identify.

00:55:35.010 --> 00:55:37.920 align:middle line:84%
One option is to provide
that as an accommodation

00:55:37.920 --> 00:55:42.950 align:middle line:84%
if I learned that a person
who is blind is in my class.

00:55:42.950 --> 00:55:44.410 align:middle line:90%
That would be one approach.

00:55:44.410 --> 00:55:47.740 align:middle line:84%
Leave it up to disabled
services or disability services

00:55:47.740 --> 00:55:50.860 align:middle line:84%
or leave it up to that person
identifying themself as blind

00:55:50.860 --> 00:55:53.230 align:middle line:84%
and asking me for
an accommodation.

00:55:53.230 --> 00:55:55.600 align:middle line:84%
Rather than that,
right in the lesson,

00:55:55.600 --> 00:55:58.100 align:middle line:84%
I kind of describe it,
as I just mentioned.

00:55:58.100 --> 00:56:01.150 align:middle line:84%
But then, right at that point,
alternatively, I start out,

00:56:01.150 --> 00:56:05.290 align:middle line:84%
alternatively, think about
a physical environment

00:56:05.290 --> 00:56:09.370 align:middle line:84%
you have experienced
and where you

00:56:09.370 --> 00:56:13.090 align:middle line:84%
felt that something that was
provided in that environment

00:56:13.090 --> 00:56:18.283 align:middle line:84%
was really representative of
the universal design philosophy.

00:56:18.283 --> 00:56:20.950 align:middle line:84%
BRIANNA BLASER: There's a couple
of great questions in the chat.

00:56:20.950 --> 00:56:23.860 align:middle line:84%
One is can you describe
the turning point

00:56:23.860 --> 00:56:28.480 align:middle line:84%
for your university to really
support universal design

00:56:28.480 --> 00:56:30.940 align:middle line:84%
and provide resources that
might help other folks trying

00:56:30.940 --> 00:56:33.130 align:middle line:84%
to get their university
to support this?

00:56:33.130 --> 00:56:34.505 align:middle line:84%
SHERYL BURGSTAHLER:
Well, I don't

00:56:34.505 --> 00:56:36.920 align:middle line:90%
think we've reached that curve.

00:56:36.920 --> 00:56:39.460 align:middle line:90%
We are not had that major turn.

00:56:39.460 --> 00:56:42.070 align:middle line:90%


00:56:42.070 --> 00:56:45.100 align:middle line:84%
We have a lot more
people talking

00:56:45.100 --> 00:56:46.910 align:middle line:84%
about universal
design on our campus,

00:56:46.910 --> 00:56:49.470 align:middle line:90%
and so it's a gradual process.

00:56:49.470 --> 00:56:51.580 align:middle line:84%
And we just talk about
it all that we can.

00:56:51.580 --> 00:56:55.810 align:middle line:84%
We have a group of liaisons,
IT accessibility liaisons

00:56:55.810 --> 00:56:57.890 align:middle line:90%
supporting our teams' efforts.

00:56:57.890 --> 00:56:59.890 align:middle line:84%
And they're like
150 people, and they

00:56:59.890 --> 00:57:03.040 align:middle line:84%
get training on accessible
design and design

00:57:03.040 --> 00:57:06.700 align:middle line:84%
of online learning
that is accessible.

00:57:06.700 --> 00:57:09.970 align:middle line:84%
And we count on them
to spread the word.

00:57:09.970 --> 00:57:12.340 align:middle line:90%
We give a lot of presentations.

00:57:12.340 --> 00:57:15.020 align:middle line:84%
We don't have a lot of
pushback on universal design.

00:57:15.020 --> 00:57:16.530 align:middle line:84%
More and more people
know about it.

00:57:16.530 --> 00:57:18.890 align:middle line:84%
Is it's actually
practicing it is a problem.

00:57:18.890 --> 00:57:22.150 align:middle line:84%
It's like, well, I don't
have time, especially lately.

00:57:22.150 --> 00:57:24.140 align:middle line:84%
The 20 Tips
publication can help.

00:57:24.140 --> 00:57:26.380 align:middle line:84%
For instance, on our
campus with the pandemic,

00:57:26.380 --> 00:57:29.470 align:middle line:84%
we went online just
literally over overnight.

00:57:29.470 --> 00:57:31.300 align:middle line:84%
And I thought that's
not a good time

00:57:31.300 --> 00:57:34.535 align:middle line:84%
to approach faculty that
are just panicked over this

00:57:34.535 --> 00:57:36.910 align:middle line:84%
and converting their courses
to have a lot of information

00:57:36.910 --> 00:57:38.080 align:middle line:90%
about universal design.

00:57:38.080 --> 00:57:40.790 align:middle line:84%
But we made a big effort around
all these campus websites

00:57:40.790 --> 00:57:43.300 align:middle line:84%
that started appearing and
departments and colleges

00:57:43.300 --> 00:57:48.370 align:middle line:84%
and schools on helping their
faculty convert to online.

00:57:48.370 --> 00:57:50.620 align:middle line:84%
We made sure that
our resources, which

00:57:50.620 --> 00:57:54.580 align:middle line:84%
included the 20 tips, because
that's a way to get started.

00:57:54.580 --> 00:57:56.590 align:middle line:84%
And then, that
publication was a link

00:57:56.590 --> 00:57:58.540 align:middle line:90%
on their list of resources.

00:57:58.540 --> 00:58:00.970 align:middle line:84%
And our more general
IT accessibility,

00:58:00.970 --> 00:58:03.310 align:middle line:84%
technology sensibility
website, which

00:58:03.310 --> 00:58:05.830 align:middle line:84%
includes technical
details, much like what

00:58:05.830 --> 00:58:09.700 align:middle line:84%
Terry is going to talk about
next, was on there as well.

00:58:09.700 --> 00:58:11.345 align:middle line:90%
And I think it's a journey.

00:58:11.345 --> 00:58:13.370 align:middle line:84%
We're certainly progressing
on that journey,

00:58:13.370 --> 00:58:16.000 align:middle line:84%
but we're not at the end of
that journey by any stretch

00:58:16.000 --> 00:58:17.145 align:middle line:90%
of the imagination.

00:58:17.145 --> 00:58:19.270 align:middle line:84%
BRIANNA BLASER: There's a
few questions in the chat

00:58:19.270 --> 00:58:22.030 align:middle line:90%
about accessibility of PDFs.

00:58:22.030 --> 00:58:25.616 align:middle line:84%
And I know this is a teaser
for Terrill's presentation.

00:58:25.616 --> 00:58:28.120 align:middle line:84%
Terrill, I don't know
if you want to jump in.

00:58:28.120 --> 00:58:30.610 align:middle line:84%
Some of the questions are
whether searchable PDFs

00:58:30.610 --> 00:58:33.162 align:middle line:90%
are relatively inaccessible?

00:58:33.162 --> 00:58:37.090 align:middle line:84%
Are Word documents with good
heading structures better?

00:58:37.090 --> 00:58:39.985 align:middle line:84%
What do you do about journal
PDFs that are inaccessible?

00:58:39.985 --> 00:58:42.360 align:middle line:84%
And I know you're going to
talk about some of this later,

00:58:42.360 --> 00:58:44.763 align:middle line:84%
so I don't want to steal
your thunder too much.

00:58:44.763 --> 00:58:47.180 align:middle line:84%
TERRILL THOMPSON: Yeah, these
are all excellent questions.

00:58:47.180 --> 00:58:51.770 align:middle line:84%
Also, the question I'm
seeing there about alt text

00:58:51.770 --> 00:58:55.070 align:middle line:84%
as it applies to more
complex graphics--

00:58:55.070 --> 00:58:58.340 align:middle line:84%
bar graphs, scatter
plots, et cetera.

00:58:58.340 --> 00:59:02.390 align:middle line:84%
I can try to build in
some discussion about all

00:59:02.390 --> 00:59:04.348 align:middle line:90%
of those things in my segment.

00:59:04.348 --> 00:59:06.140 align:middle line:84%
I think we should have
time to cover those,

00:59:06.140 --> 00:59:07.880 align:middle line:84%
so I'll make a note
of those questions

00:59:07.880 --> 00:59:11.264 align:middle line:84%
and try to address
that in my talk.

00:59:11.264 --> 00:59:13.650 align:middle line:90%
BRIANNA BLASER: Excellent.

00:59:13.650 --> 00:59:14.760 align:middle line:90%
[INTERPOSING VOICES]

00:59:14.760 --> 00:59:15.410 align:middle line:90%
SHERYL BURGSTAHLER: Go ahead.

00:59:15.410 --> 00:59:15.980 align:middle line:84%
BRIANNA BLASER: I
was just going to say

00:59:15.980 --> 00:59:17.397 align:middle line:84%
somebody asked
about accessibility

00:59:17.397 --> 00:59:18.350 align:middle line:90%
of journal articles.

00:59:18.350 --> 00:59:20.690 align:middle line:84%
And I just this morning
was reading some emails

00:59:20.690 --> 00:59:22.820 align:middle line:84%
on our student
mentoring list where

00:59:22.820 --> 00:59:26.210 align:middle line:84%
a student who was trying to
access some computer science

00:59:26.210 --> 00:59:30.140 align:middle line:84%
PDFs from journals found
they were all inaccessible.

00:59:30.140 --> 00:59:32.750 align:middle line:84%
And there was a
resulting conversation

00:59:32.750 --> 00:59:35.510 align:middle line:84%
where another person said, yeah,
this professional organization

00:59:35.510 --> 00:59:37.130 align:middle line:84%
isn't great at making
PDFs accessible.

00:59:37.130 --> 00:59:39.170 align:middle line:90%
So it's a problem.

00:59:39.170 --> 00:59:40.910 align:middle line:84%
SHERYL BURGSTAHLER:
It's a huge problem.

00:59:40.910 --> 00:59:43.740 align:middle line:84%
From the student perspective,
what we do on our campus

00:59:43.740 --> 00:59:47.840 align:middle line:84%
is we have a contract with
SensusAccess, which is

00:59:47.840 --> 00:59:49.660 align:middle line:90%
a tool that can convert PDF--

00:59:49.660 --> 00:59:52.880 align:middle line:84%
well, it can one
format to another.

00:59:52.880 --> 00:59:56.720 align:middle line:84%
And it will take a PDF and
do a computer generated

00:59:56.720 --> 00:59:58.550 align:middle line:90%
version of an accessible PDF.

00:59:58.550 --> 01:00:01.280 align:middle line:90%
It's not pretty, necessarily.

01:00:01.280 --> 01:00:05.330 align:middle line:84%
It might not have the headings
structured and so forth.

01:00:05.330 --> 01:00:08.060 align:middle line:84%
But it allows a student who's
working at midnight on Saturday

01:00:08.060 --> 01:00:11.600 align:middle line:84%
night with no access to the
disability services office

01:00:11.600 --> 01:00:12.920 align:middle line:90%
to do remediation.

01:00:12.920 --> 01:00:15.230 align:middle line:84%
And that term paper
is due on Monday.

01:00:15.230 --> 01:00:18.180 align:middle line:84%
They have a right to
procrastinate as well.

01:00:18.180 --> 01:00:19.910 align:middle line:84%
But they can access
some resources

01:00:19.910 --> 01:00:21.420 align:middle line:90%
that they really need.

01:00:21.420 --> 01:00:26.210 align:middle line:84%
We also have Ally, which
is an add-on by Blackboard,

01:00:26.210 --> 01:00:29.730 align:middle line:84%
but it's with our Canvas, that
does something similar to that.

01:00:29.730 --> 01:00:32.900 align:middle line:84%
And then the other thing is you
can contact your librarians.

01:00:32.900 --> 01:00:34.910 align:middle line:84%
They might be able to
help you get an accessible

01:00:34.910 --> 01:00:37.970 align:middle line:90%
version of that PDF.

01:00:37.970 --> 01:00:41.520 align:middle line:84%
You've seen an article
or something that's

01:00:41.520 --> 01:00:44.432 align:middle line:84%
it's available on the
website on the internet

01:00:44.432 --> 01:00:45.890 align:middle line:84%
in different formats,
and you might

01:00:45.890 --> 01:00:48.110 align:middle line:90%
find a more accessible one.

01:00:48.110 --> 01:00:51.590 align:middle line:84%
Otherwise, I think
contacting that organization,

01:00:51.590 --> 01:00:55.103 align:middle line:84%
encouraging them to produce
accessible documents.

01:00:55.103 --> 01:00:56.520 align:middle line:84%
You have to decide
how much you're

01:00:56.520 --> 01:00:58.220 align:middle line:84%
going to be an advocate
in that regard.

01:00:58.220 --> 01:01:03.050 align:middle line:84%
Otherwise, it's left up to
the disability services office

01:01:03.050 --> 01:01:04.250 align:middle line:90%
to do the remediation.

01:01:04.250 --> 01:01:06.770 align:middle line:84%
I actually, in my
class, choose not

01:01:06.770 --> 01:01:10.820 align:middle line:84%
to use information that's
not designed in an accessible

01:01:10.820 --> 01:01:11.340 align:middle line:90%
format.

01:01:11.340 --> 01:01:15.138 align:middle line:84%
So that's another, but maybe
too big of a drastic measure

01:01:15.138 --> 01:01:15.680 align:middle line:90%
in your case.

01:01:15.680 --> 01:01:18.900 align:middle line:84%
But my course is on
universal design,

01:01:18.900 --> 01:01:21.387 align:middle line:84%
so I have to hold myself
to a higher standard.

01:01:21.387 --> 01:01:22.220 align:middle line:90%
[INTERPOSING VOICES]

01:01:22.220 --> 01:01:22.852 align:middle line:90%
Oh.

01:01:22.852 --> 01:01:24.560 align:middle line:84%
BRIANNA BLASER: There's
one last question

01:01:24.560 --> 01:01:26.018 align:middle line:84%
that I think is
really interesting,

01:01:26.018 --> 01:01:27.550 align:middle line:84%
but I think you
just covered this,

01:01:27.550 --> 01:01:29.425 align:middle line:84%
so maybe you can give
a quick answer to this.

01:01:29.425 --> 01:01:31.767 align:middle line:84%
Meg Ray asked how do
you deal with tools

01:01:31.767 --> 01:01:34.100 align:middle line:84%
that may make learning more
accessible for some students

01:01:34.100 --> 01:01:35.540 align:middle line:90%
but less accessible for others?

01:01:35.540 --> 01:01:39.650 align:middle line:84%
And then she gave an
example of Flipgrid

01:01:39.650 --> 01:01:41.510 align:middle line:84%
in place of discussion,
or it's which

01:01:41.510 --> 01:01:43.460 align:middle line:84%
allows folks a variety
of ways to answer,

01:01:43.460 --> 01:01:46.130 align:middle line:84%
but it makes it less accessible
to folks need captioning?

01:01:46.130 --> 01:01:48.305 align:middle line:84%
SHERYL BURGSTAHLER:
Yeah, well, Terry

01:01:48.305 --> 01:01:49.940 align:middle line:84%
will talk about
accessible software,

01:01:49.940 --> 01:01:53.510 align:middle line:84%
so you want to see if there's
an alternative that you can use.

01:01:53.510 --> 01:01:56.540 align:middle line:84%
Another thing you can do is you
can have a tool that you really

01:01:56.540 --> 01:01:58.970 align:middle line:84%
like using, but maybe it's
not accessible to students

01:01:58.970 --> 01:02:00.930 align:middle line:90%
who are blind.

01:02:00.930 --> 01:02:04.100 align:middle line:84%
And if a student who is blind
signs up for your class,

01:02:04.100 --> 01:02:06.920 align:middle line:84%
you can just quick like a
bunny use a different tool

01:02:06.920 --> 01:02:10.388 align:middle line:84%
to make it accessible to
that specific class you have.

01:02:10.388 --> 01:02:12.180 align:middle line:84%
Because it might be
accessible to everybody

01:02:12.180 --> 01:02:13.680 align:middle line:84%
that's in your
class, but you've got

01:02:13.680 --> 01:02:15.202 align:middle line:90%
to do that in a seamless way.

01:02:15.202 --> 01:02:16.910 align:middle line:84%
I've heard of faculty
that make a change,

01:02:16.910 --> 01:02:18.320 align:middle line:84%
and they actually
point that out.

01:02:18.320 --> 01:02:20.153 align:middle line:84%
We're making this change
because this person

01:02:20.153 --> 01:02:21.890 align:middle line:84%
is blind in the
class and so forth.

01:02:21.890 --> 01:02:26.090 align:middle line:84%
But Terry we'll talk more
about accessible tools.

01:02:26.090 --> 01:02:28.610 align:middle line:84%
For multiple reasons,
I keep it real simple.

01:02:28.610 --> 01:02:31.040 align:middle line:90%
I use asynchronous tools.

01:02:31.040 --> 01:02:32.988 align:middle line:84%
All the tools I use
are pretty simple.

01:02:32.988 --> 01:02:35.280 align:middle line:84%
I hear from students that
they get really confused when

01:02:35.280 --> 01:02:37.340 align:middle line:84%
the faculty member uses a
whole bunch of tools they think

01:02:37.340 --> 01:02:38.270 align:middle line:90%
are really great.

01:02:38.270 --> 01:02:40.880 align:middle line:84%
So really look seriously
about whether you need to use

01:02:40.880 --> 01:02:42.560 align:middle line:90%
that particular tool.

01:02:42.560 --> 01:02:44.600 align:middle line:84%
Sometimes you can stretch
an accessible tool

01:02:44.600 --> 01:02:46.267 align:middle line:84%
to do some of the
things that you really

01:02:46.267 --> 01:02:47.750 align:middle line:90%
like about that tool.

01:02:47.750 --> 01:02:48.890 align:middle line:90%
But we're done for now.

01:02:48.890 --> 01:02:51.170 align:middle line:84%
And at 10 after,
Terrill is going

01:02:51.170 --> 01:02:54.970 align:middle line:84%
to start talking about
the technology stuff.

01:02:54.970 --> 01:02:56.325 align:middle line:90%
So see you then.

01:02:56.325 --> 01:02:57.700 align:middle line:84%
BRIANNA BLASER:
See you in a bit.

01:02:57.700 --> 01:03:01.470 align:middle line:90%


01:03:01.470 --> 01:03:04.150 align:middle line:84%
TERRILL THOMPSON: --for those of
you where it is still morning.

01:03:04.150 --> 01:03:07.050 align:middle line:84%
Good afternoon for those of
you that have slipped over

01:03:07.050 --> 01:03:10.240 align:middle line:90%
into the other side.

01:03:10.240 --> 01:03:13.800 align:middle line:84%
I am going to be talking
about a variety of things.

01:03:13.800 --> 01:03:16.260 align:middle line:84%
This was originally
advertised in the agenda,

01:03:16.260 --> 01:03:20.020 align:middle line:84%
I think, as documents
and video accessibility.

01:03:20.020 --> 01:03:25.890 align:middle line:84%
But there is really so much
more that can be talked about,

01:03:25.890 --> 01:03:29.340 align:middle line:84%
and so I wanted to also
include website and vendor

01:03:29.340 --> 01:03:34.050 align:middle line:84%
products in the mix of things
that I'm going to talk about.

01:03:34.050 --> 01:03:37.080 align:middle line:84%
As Sheryl mentioned, I am the
manager of the IT accessibility

01:03:37.080 --> 01:03:40.100 align:middle line:84%
team, so we deal with all
of these sorts of things

01:03:40.100 --> 01:03:41.340 align:middle line:90%
on campus.

01:03:41.340 --> 01:03:45.330 align:middle line:84%
Our charge is to
promote technology

01:03:45.330 --> 01:03:46.890 align:middle line:90%
accessibility campus-wide.

01:03:46.890 --> 01:03:50.070 align:middle line:84%
And so we work with
our own university

01:03:50.070 --> 01:03:53.300 align:middle line:84%
to try and ensure that our
websites, documents, video,

01:03:53.300 --> 01:03:55.870 align:middle line:84%
and vendor products
are accessible.

01:03:55.870 --> 01:03:58.050 align:middle line:84%
And so there's a lot
of other training,

01:03:58.050 --> 01:04:02.370 align:middle line:84%
consulting, collaborating,
and just working

01:04:02.370 --> 01:04:05.250 align:middle line:84%
to educate the campus
community and build capacity.

01:04:05.250 --> 01:04:08.130 align:middle line:84%
We do a lot of this
on our own campus

01:04:08.130 --> 01:04:10.050 align:middle line:90%
at the University of Washington.

01:04:10.050 --> 01:04:13.750 align:middle line:84%
And then, through
the grant funding,

01:04:13.750 --> 01:04:17.940 align:middle line:84%
such as AccessINCLUDES,
and part of my position

01:04:17.940 --> 01:04:20.790 align:middle line:84%
is funded by an
NSF project called

01:04:20.790 --> 01:04:24.630 align:middle line:84%
AccessComputing, which is
dedicated to broadening

01:04:24.630 --> 01:04:27.210 align:middle line:84%
participation of students
with disabilities

01:04:27.210 --> 01:04:29.170 align:middle line:90%
in computing fields.

01:04:29.170 --> 01:04:32.340 align:middle line:84%
And so I do a lot of
the same sort of work

01:04:32.340 --> 01:04:34.860 align:middle line:84%
on the AccessComputing
project dedicated

01:04:34.860 --> 01:04:42.030 align:middle line:84%
to improving accessibility among
our partners on that grant.

01:04:42.030 --> 01:04:44.820 align:middle line:84%
So within an hour, we'll
cover just a little bit

01:04:44.820 --> 01:04:46.080 align:middle line:90%
of each of these topics.

01:04:46.080 --> 01:04:47.962 align:middle line:84%
But I do want to allow
time for questions,

01:04:47.962 --> 01:04:49.920 align:middle line:84%
and I want to answer some
of the questions that

01:04:49.920 --> 01:04:53.300 align:middle line:84%
came up in the first
session, and point you

01:04:53.300 --> 01:04:56.700 align:middle line:84%
towards some resources where
you can continue learning more

01:04:56.700 --> 01:04:58.170 align:middle line:90%
about each of these things.

01:04:58.170 --> 01:05:02.870 align:middle line:90%


01:05:02.870 --> 01:05:07.940 align:middle line:84%
So first of all, and we are
talking about diversity.

01:05:07.940 --> 01:05:11.120 align:middle line:84%
This is a big focus
of AccessINCLUDES.

01:05:11.120 --> 01:05:15.450 align:middle line:84%
And specifically when we talk
about technology accessibility,

01:05:15.450 --> 01:05:19.400 align:middle line:84%
we're talking about technology
diversity and the diversity

01:05:19.400 --> 01:05:22.010 align:middle line:84%
among people in the
way they interact

01:05:22.010 --> 01:05:27.620 align:middle line:84%
with computing
tools, information--

01:05:27.620 --> 01:05:30.120 align:middle line:84%
electronic and
digital information.

01:05:30.120 --> 01:05:36.950 align:middle line:84%
So the historical model is
you've got some data somewhere.

01:05:36.950 --> 01:05:38.510 align:middle line:90%
Now, we call it the cloud.

01:05:38.510 --> 01:05:41.090 align:middle line:84%
There's data out there in
the cloud or on the internet,

01:05:41.090 --> 01:05:44.510 align:middle line:84%
or somewhere there's data
that you need access to.

01:05:44.510 --> 01:05:50.870 align:middle line:84%
And traditionally, you would get
access via monitor, a screen.

01:05:50.870 --> 01:05:56.240 align:middle line:84%
And you would communicate back
to the computer using keyboard.

01:05:56.240 --> 01:05:58.430 align:middle line:90%
That was the original interface.

01:05:58.430 --> 01:06:00.840 align:middle line:84%
But then, also, a mouse
was introduced later.

01:06:00.840 --> 01:06:05.600 align:middle line:84%
And so this kind of then
became the traditional model

01:06:05.600 --> 01:06:07.940 align:middle line:84%
of a keyboard and
mouse for input,

01:06:07.940 --> 01:06:12.320 align:middle line:90%
and a monitor for output.

01:06:12.320 --> 01:06:15.110 align:middle line:84%
But that's an old
fashioned model.

01:06:15.110 --> 01:06:17.510 align:middle line:84%
We see more and more
people interacting

01:06:17.510 --> 01:06:20.480 align:middle line:84%
with their mobile
devices in order

01:06:20.480 --> 01:06:22.910 align:middle line:90%
to get access to information.

01:06:22.910 --> 01:06:25.040 align:middle line:84%
And within mobile
devices, you've

01:06:25.040 --> 01:06:28.040 align:middle line:84%
got a wide variety of
different platforms,

01:06:28.040 --> 01:06:30.980 align:middle line:90%
different shapes, sizes.

01:06:30.980 --> 01:06:32.870 align:middle line:90%
You've got tablets as well.

01:06:32.870 --> 01:06:35.780 align:middle line:84%
A lot of different shapes,
sizes, and platforms

01:06:35.780 --> 01:06:37.760 align:middle line:90%
when it comes to tablets.

01:06:37.760 --> 01:06:39.410 align:middle line:84%
You've got people
who are listening

01:06:39.410 --> 01:06:44.180 align:middle line:84%
to content rather than
accessing the output visually

01:06:44.180 --> 01:06:45.980 align:middle line:90%
through a monitor.

01:06:45.980 --> 01:06:48.920 align:middle line:84%
Traditionally, this has been
the domain of people who

01:06:48.920 --> 01:06:50.850 align:middle line:90%
are blind using screen readers.

01:06:50.850 --> 01:06:54.930 align:middle line:84%
But also, now, since
we're becoming more mobile

01:06:54.930 --> 01:06:59.450 align:middle line:84%
and relying more on
hands-free interfaces

01:06:59.450 --> 01:07:02.180 align:middle line:84%
and eyes-free
interfaces, then we're

01:07:02.180 --> 01:07:07.250 align:middle line:84%
using speech output in order to
access technology, as well as

01:07:07.250 --> 01:07:08.570 align:middle line:90%
speech input.

01:07:08.570 --> 01:07:10.850 align:middle line:84%
That too has been
traditionally the domain

01:07:10.850 --> 01:07:13.040 align:middle line:84%
of people with
disabilities, particularly

01:07:13.040 --> 01:07:14.690 align:middle line:84%
people with physical
disabilities

01:07:14.690 --> 01:07:19.490 align:middle line:84%
who are unable to type
or to use a mouse.

01:07:19.490 --> 01:07:21.950 align:middle line:84%
They could use
speech input in order

01:07:21.950 --> 01:07:27.200 align:middle line:84%
to dictate documents or
control the interface.

01:07:27.200 --> 01:07:30.260 align:middle line:84%
And now, more and more people
are using speech input as well

01:07:30.260 --> 01:07:31.940 align:middle line:90%
speech output.

01:07:31.940 --> 01:07:34.880 align:middle line:84%
Some people interact
through a tactile interface.

01:07:34.880 --> 01:07:38.570 align:middle line:84%
So on the slide here, we have
a refreshable Braille device,

01:07:38.570 --> 01:07:40.970 align:middle line:84%
which can be used both
for input and output.

01:07:40.970 --> 01:07:45.070 align:middle line:84%
It's got Braille keys that
they can type in order

01:07:45.070 --> 01:07:50.780 align:middle line:84%
to produce input, and then
a refreshable row of dots

01:07:50.780 --> 01:07:53.030 align:middle line:84%
that they can use to
receive the output.

01:07:53.030 --> 01:07:55.670 align:middle line:84%
And they can explore
web pages and software

01:07:55.670 --> 01:07:59.060 align:middle line:84%
and documents using
the Braille dots

01:07:59.060 --> 01:08:01.530 align:middle line:90%
as they continue to change.

01:08:01.530 --> 01:08:03.432 align:middle line:84%
So I ran out of
slide space here.

01:08:03.432 --> 01:08:05.390 align:middle line:84%
Otherwise, I could have
gone on and on with all

01:08:05.390 --> 01:08:07.700 align:middle line:84%
the different assistive
technologies people use

01:08:07.700 --> 01:08:11.300 align:middle line:84%
and different devices people
use to access technology.

01:08:11.300 --> 01:08:15.530 align:middle line:84%
But bottom line is
there's a huge variety.

01:08:15.530 --> 01:08:19.970 align:middle line:84%
And this is really what
accessibility hinges upon,

01:08:19.970 --> 01:08:22.880 align:middle line:84%
that we want to
create information,

01:08:22.880 --> 01:08:26.330 align:middle line:84%
content, applications
that work for people,

01:08:26.330 --> 01:08:28.370 align:middle line:84%
regardless of what
their interface is

01:08:28.370 --> 01:08:30.710 align:middle line:84%
like, what sort of
devices they're using,

01:08:30.710 --> 01:08:33.500 align:middle line:84%
or what sort of
configuration they're using.

01:08:33.500 --> 01:08:37.250 align:middle line:84%
So even if we just look
at a visual interface,

01:08:37.250 --> 01:08:39.200 align:middle line:90%
people are using the monitor.

01:08:39.200 --> 01:08:42.890 align:middle line:84%
They have a lot of
flexibility in, for example,

01:08:42.890 --> 01:08:44.210 align:middle line:90%
their screen resolution.

01:08:44.210 --> 01:08:46.490 align:middle line:84%
This is all the
screen resolutions

01:08:46.490 --> 01:08:48.470 align:middle line:84%
that are available to
me on my MacBook Pro.

01:08:48.470 --> 01:08:53.990 align:middle line:84%
I can go anywhere from
640 by 480 to 1680 by 1050

01:08:53.990 --> 01:08:57.500 align:middle line:84%
and all points in between,
stretched and not stretched.

01:08:57.500 --> 01:09:00.290 align:middle line:84%
And my choice of
resolutions means

01:09:00.290 --> 01:09:02.600 align:middle line:84%
that what I'm
seeing on my screen

01:09:02.600 --> 01:09:04.520 align:middle line:84%
right now is probably
very different than what

01:09:04.520 --> 01:09:06.609 align:middle line:90%
you're seeing on yours.

01:09:06.609 --> 01:09:09.080 align:middle line:84%
And as you're
producing content, you

01:09:09.080 --> 01:09:13.819 align:middle line:84%
can't depend on people having
the same configuration as what

01:09:13.819 --> 01:09:15.000 align:middle line:90%
you have.

01:09:15.000 --> 01:09:17.200 align:middle line:90%
The same is true of font size.

01:09:17.200 --> 01:09:21.790 align:middle line:84%
This is a screenshot
from Firefox.

01:09:21.790 --> 01:09:25.930 align:middle line:84%
The default is 16, but
I've got font sizes

01:09:25.930 --> 01:09:27.760 align:middle line:90%
anywhere from 9 to 72.

01:09:27.760 --> 01:09:30.910 align:middle line:84%
So I can make the text
smaller if I wanted

01:09:30.910 --> 01:09:34.210 align:middle line:84%
to squeeze more text into
the available real estate,

01:09:34.210 --> 01:09:37.149 align:middle line:84%
or I can make it larger
if I have trouble

01:09:37.149 --> 01:09:41.229 align:middle line:90%
viewing the text at size 16--

01:09:41.229 --> 01:09:43.310 align:middle line:90%
all the way up to size 72.

01:09:43.310 --> 01:09:45.399 align:middle line:84%
And so with that
kind of variety,

01:09:45.399 --> 01:09:48.220 align:middle line:84%
people are going to have very
different visual experiences.

01:09:48.220 --> 01:09:49.720 align:middle line:84%
And of course, some
people are going

01:09:49.720 --> 01:09:54.940 align:middle line:84%
to have experiences that don't
use visual output at all.

01:09:54.940 --> 01:10:02.250 align:middle line:84%
So already, Sheryl introduced
you to Anthony, Nicole,

01:10:02.250 --> 01:10:05.150 align:middle line:90%
and Jesse I think it was.

01:10:05.150 --> 01:10:09.937 align:middle line:84%
So you've met a few of
the students and scholars

01:10:09.937 --> 01:10:11.520 align:middle line:84%
that we've worked
with over the years.

01:10:11.520 --> 01:10:14.250 align:middle line:84%
I wanted to introduce
you to a few more,

01:10:14.250 --> 01:10:18.810 align:middle line:84%
specifically focusing on the
technologies that they use.

01:10:18.810 --> 01:10:20.930 align:middle line:90%
This is Jennifer.

01:10:20.930 --> 01:10:24.150 align:middle line:84%
She, last I knew, had
an associate's degree

01:10:24.150 --> 01:10:26.910 align:middle line:84%
from Yakima Valley
Community College.

01:10:26.910 --> 01:10:29.850 align:middle line:84%
And she was working with
the Yakima Valley Community

01:10:29.850 --> 01:10:32.790 align:middle line:84%
Seeds, which is an
organization whose goal is

01:10:32.790 --> 01:10:37.800 align:middle line:84%
to respond to unmet needs of
local adults with disabilities.

01:10:37.800 --> 01:10:43.980 align:middle line:84%
Communication, I think, was
her major and her strong suit.

01:10:43.980 --> 01:10:46.620 align:middle line:84%
As you can see, she's got
some different technology

01:10:46.620 --> 01:10:47.850 align:middle line:90%
that she's using here.

01:10:47.850 --> 01:10:49.560 align:middle line:84%
She has a mobility
impairment that

01:10:49.560 --> 01:10:53.760 align:middle line:84%
prevents her from using a
traditional keyboard/mouse

01:10:53.760 --> 01:10:56.370 align:middle line:90%
interface.

01:10:56.370 --> 01:10:59.070 align:middle line:84%
In her right hand,
she's holding a stick.

01:10:59.070 --> 01:11:01.560 align:middle line:84%
And she's using an
IntelliKeys keyboard,

01:11:01.560 --> 01:11:04.800 align:middle line:84%
which has larger keys
than a typical keyboard.

01:11:04.800 --> 01:11:07.890 align:middle line:84%
And those make a
perfect target for her

01:11:07.890 --> 01:11:10.690 align:middle line:90%
since she has limited dexterity.

01:11:10.690 --> 01:11:13.800 align:middle line:84%
But with the stick
held in her right hand,

01:11:13.800 --> 01:11:16.820 align:middle line:90%
she can hit those larger keys.

01:11:16.820 --> 01:11:19.920 align:middle line:84%
So she's navigating almost
entirely then with keyboard.

01:11:19.920 --> 01:11:21.480 align:middle line:90%
She's not using a mouse at all.

01:11:21.480 --> 01:11:27.560 align:middle line:84%
She's using this stick and
large keyboard combination.

01:11:27.560 --> 01:11:28.910 align:middle line:90%
This is Courtney.

01:11:28.910 --> 01:11:32.750 align:middle line:84%
She has a bachelor's degree
in communications from the UW.

01:11:32.750 --> 01:11:35.840 align:middle line:84%
And she works as a creative
production assistant

01:11:35.840 --> 01:11:39.830 align:middle line:84%
now at Rooted in Rights, which
is a program of disability

01:11:39.830 --> 01:11:43.130 align:middle line:84%
rights Washington that focuses
on creating media centered

01:11:43.130 --> 01:11:45.500 align:middle line:90%
around disability rights.

01:11:45.500 --> 01:11:47.210 align:middle line:84%
She's been a really
strong advocate

01:11:47.210 --> 01:11:50.360 align:middle line:84%
for the rights of individuals
with disabilities,

01:11:50.360 --> 01:11:53.570 align:middle line:84%
and she in her role
at Rooted and Rights

01:11:53.570 --> 01:11:57.890 align:middle line:84%
writes for their blog and has
written for other publications,

01:11:57.890 --> 01:12:01.880 align:middle line:84%
like the Braille Monitor
is one that I know of.

01:12:01.880 --> 01:12:04.730 align:middle line:84%
And she maintains a
personal blog as well.

01:12:04.730 --> 01:12:08.735 align:middle line:84%
But she's seen here using a
refreshable Braille device.

01:12:08.735 --> 01:12:11.370 align:middle line:90%


01:12:11.370 --> 01:12:13.530 align:middle line:84%
And here's Courtney
again, but she's

01:12:13.530 --> 01:12:17.700 align:middle line:84%
with her friend Conrad,
who graduated summa cum

01:12:17.700 --> 01:12:20.890 align:middle line:84%
laude from Seattle
Pacific University

01:12:20.890 --> 01:12:24.090 align:middle line:84%
but then came to the UW
and got a law degree.

01:12:24.090 --> 01:12:28.770 align:middle line:84%
And his list of
accomplishments is pretty long

01:12:28.770 --> 01:12:31.807 align:middle line:90%
but worth mentioning, I think.

01:12:31.807 --> 01:12:33.390 align:middle line:84%
When he was working
on his law degree,

01:12:33.390 --> 01:12:37.680 align:middle line:84%
he interned in Washington,
DC three different times,

01:12:37.680 --> 01:12:39.600 align:middle line:84%
once with the American
Association of People

01:12:39.600 --> 01:12:42.630 align:middle line:84%
with Disabilities, once with
The Heritage Foundation,

01:12:42.630 --> 01:12:46.620 align:middle line:84%
and once with the Alliance
Defending Freedom.

01:12:46.620 --> 01:12:49.530 align:middle line:84%
And he's won many
awards, including

01:12:49.530 --> 01:12:53.280 align:middle line:84%
the Carlson-Parker award
from Pacific Justice

01:12:53.280 --> 01:12:57.750 align:middle line:84%
Institute in 2016, the Ron
Adams Outstanding Advocate

01:12:57.750 --> 01:13:02.280 align:middle line:84%
Award from the Northwest Access
Fund in 2017, Public Service

01:13:02.280 --> 01:13:06.120 align:middle line:84%
and Leadership Award from Young
Lawyers Committee of Washington

01:13:06.120 --> 01:13:09.420 align:middle line:90%
State Bar Association in 2018.

01:13:09.420 --> 01:13:14.640 align:middle line:84%
He founded his own 501(c)(3)
nonprofit disability rights law

01:13:14.640 --> 01:13:17.610 align:middle line:84%
firm in Seattle and is
quite well-known in Seattle

01:13:17.610 --> 01:13:21.870 align:middle line:84%
as a civil rights lawyer
focusing primarily

01:13:21.870 --> 01:13:24.150 align:middle line:90%
on disability rights.

01:13:24.150 --> 01:13:29.280 align:middle line:84%
He's the outgoing chair of the
Governor's Award subcommittee,

01:13:29.280 --> 01:13:32.070 align:middle line:84%
a member of the coordinating
committee for the Washington

01:13:32.070 --> 01:13:34.980 align:middle line:84%
State Governor's Committee
on Disability Issues

01:13:34.980 --> 01:13:36.930 align:middle line:90%
and Employment.

01:13:36.930 --> 01:13:38.440 align:middle line:90%
And I could go on and on.

01:13:38.440 --> 01:13:39.660 align:middle line:90%
He's an avid Seahawks fan.

01:13:39.660 --> 01:13:42.840 align:middle line:84%
You can see he's wearing
the number 12 there.

01:13:42.840 --> 01:13:45.580 align:middle line:84%
But he has very limited
use of his hands.

01:13:45.580 --> 01:13:49.590 align:middle line:84%
And so he is using
a sip and puff

01:13:49.590 --> 01:13:54.070 align:middle line:84%
device, which allows him
to control a lot of things,

01:13:54.070 --> 01:13:56.820 align:middle line:90%
including on-screen access.

01:13:56.820 --> 01:13:59.940 align:middle line:90%
He can manipulate the cursor.

01:13:59.940 --> 01:14:02.640 align:middle line:84%
With a device such as
a sip and puff switch,

01:14:02.640 --> 01:14:08.160 align:middle line:84%
you can program it to meet
your individual needs.

01:14:08.160 --> 01:14:11.160 align:middle line:84%
But a sip may click,
and a puff may double

01:14:11.160 --> 01:14:14.610 align:middle line:90%
click, something like that.

01:14:14.610 --> 01:14:19.000 align:middle line:84%
And he also is a big user of
speech recognition technology.

01:14:19.000 --> 01:14:22.230 align:middle line:84%
So he uses Dragon
NaturallySpeaking

01:14:22.230 --> 01:14:26.010 align:middle line:84%
to do a lot of his computing,
so dictating documents,

01:14:26.010 --> 01:14:27.780 align:middle line:84%
as well as controlling
the interface.

01:14:27.780 --> 01:14:30.650 align:middle line:90%


01:14:30.650 --> 01:14:32.480 align:middle line:90%
And this is Hannah.

01:14:32.480 --> 01:14:34.940 align:middle line:84%
She graduated from the
University of Washington

01:14:34.940 --> 01:14:37.250 align:middle line:84%
with a computer
science major but also

01:14:37.250 --> 01:14:40.190 align:middle line:90%
had physics and math minors.

01:14:40.190 --> 01:14:44.000 align:middle line:84%
She spent some time studying in
Paris while she was at the UW.

01:14:44.000 --> 01:14:46.970 align:middle line:84%
She also played piccolo
in the UW marching band.

01:14:46.970 --> 01:14:49.460 align:middle line:84%
She was awarded the
UW President's Medal

01:14:49.460 --> 01:14:54.470 align:middle line:84%
for the 2015-'16 academic
year, won the Boas Scholarship

01:14:54.470 --> 01:15:00.470 align:middle line:84%
for physics in 2017-2018,
and interned at Facebook

01:15:00.470 --> 01:15:05.180 align:middle line:84%
in software development
and now works for Facebook.

01:15:05.180 --> 01:15:09.710 align:middle line:84%
And she's shown here with
her screen magnified.

01:15:09.710 --> 01:15:15.110 align:middle line:84%
So she's using ZoomText to zoom
in and make the font larger.

01:15:15.110 --> 01:15:15.890 align:middle line:90%
And she does this.

01:15:15.890 --> 01:15:18.360 align:middle line:84%
You can use ZoomText
in a variety of ways.

01:15:18.360 --> 01:15:20.480 align:middle line:90%
But she is zooming everything.

01:15:20.480 --> 01:15:22.720 align:middle line:84%
So she makes everything
bigger, and she

01:15:22.720 --> 01:15:26.165 align:middle line:84%
is looking at studying program
code here, which, of course, is

01:15:26.165 --> 01:15:27.920 align:middle line:90%
what her specialty is.

01:15:27.920 --> 01:15:32.183 align:middle line:84%
But when you're zoomed into just
a small portion of the screen,

01:15:32.183 --> 01:15:34.100 align:middle line:84%
that means things that
are happening elsewhere

01:15:34.100 --> 01:15:36.360 align:middle line:90%
in the screen are not visible.

01:15:36.360 --> 01:15:40.710 align:middle line:84%
And so that's something that
needs to be kept in mind.

01:15:40.710 --> 01:15:44.690 align:middle line:84%
So again, we could go on
and on introducing you

01:15:44.690 --> 01:15:46.490 align:middle line:84%
to more and more of
the students that we've

01:15:46.490 --> 01:15:48.060 align:middle line:90%
worked with over the years.

01:15:48.060 --> 01:15:53.330 align:middle line:84%
But I think Jennifer, Courtney,
Conrad, and Hannah all give us

01:15:53.330 --> 01:15:56.900 align:middle line:84%
some ideas about just the
differences between people

01:15:56.900 --> 01:15:59.390 align:middle line:84%
and how they interact
with technology.

01:15:59.390 --> 01:16:04.110 align:middle line:84%
And we need to then keep
those users in mind,

01:16:04.110 --> 01:16:07.370 align:middle line:84%
keep that diversity in
mind as we ask questions

01:16:07.370 --> 01:16:10.320 align:middle line:90%
like is my website accessible?

01:16:10.320 --> 01:16:13.250 align:middle line:84%
Are these digital
documents accessible?

01:16:13.250 --> 01:16:15.230 align:middle line:84%
Are each of those
individuals that we just

01:16:15.230 --> 01:16:20.750 align:middle line:84%
met going to be able to
use those technologies?

01:16:20.750 --> 01:16:24.710 align:middle line:84%
And so let's step through
each of the categories

01:16:24.710 --> 01:16:28.490 align:middle line:84%
and talk a little bit
about what makes websites,

01:16:28.490 --> 01:16:32.030 align:middle line:84%
and digital documents,
and videos, and software,

01:16:32.030 --> 01:16:36.020 align:middle line:84%
or third-party products
and services accessible.

01:16:36.020 --> 01:16:38.780 align:middle line:90%
I have an example website here.

01:16:38.780 --> 01:16:42.440 align:middle line:84%
This is the NSF INCLUDES
national network website.

01:16:42.440 --> 01:16:46.940 align:middle line:84%
And there may be some of you
who represent this organization

01:16:46.940 --> 01:16:49.250 align:middle line:84%
or have something to
do with this website.

01:16:49.250 --> 01:16:51.830 align:middle line:84%
So I just picked this for
its relevance to the meeting,

01:16:51.830 --> 01:16:55.070 align:middle line:90%
not because it's good or bad.

01:16:55.070 --> 01:16:57.890 align:middle line:84%
And I'm not necessarily
going to delve

01:16:57.890 --> 01:17:00.620 align:middle line:90%
into this particular website.

01:17:00.620 --> 01:17:04.760 align:middle line:84%
But as you're looking at
websites, and you're asking

01:17:04.760 --> 01:17:09.050 align:middle line:84%
is this website accessible, then
some things that kind of jump

01:17:09.050 --> 01:17:12.050 align:middle line:90%
out are images.

01:17:12.050 --> 01:17:16.080 align:middle line:84%
If you have images, then
they need to be described.

01:17:16.080 --> 01:17:19.040 align:middle line:84%
So again, there was the
question earlier about alt text,

01:17:19.040 --> 01:17:21.980 align:middle line:84%
and we'll talk a little bit
more later about alt text.

01:17:21.980 --> 01:17:25.310 align:middle line:84%
But there is at least one,
maybe two, maybe three,

01:17:25.310 --> 01:17:27.440 align:middle line:90%
actually, images on the slide.

01:17:27.440 --> 01:17:29.760 align:middle line:84%
We've got a logo
at the top-left.

01:17:29.760 --> 01:17:32.090 align:middle line:90%
We've got the NSF logo.

01:17:32.090 --> 01:17:38.630 align:middle line:84%
And we have an image that's
kind of front and center

01:17:38.630 --> 01:17:42.080 align:middle line:84%
that features a silhouette
of people gathered

01:17:42.080 --> 01:17:48.920 align:middle line:84%
around the table and some
iconography that represents

01:17:48.920 --> 01:17:52.070 align:middle line:84%
some of the key ideas
or concepts that

01:17:52.070 --> 01:17:56.600 align:middle line:90%
are covered by NSF INCLUDES.

01:17:56.600 --> 01:18:00.720 align:middle line:84%
So the question is what is
good alt text for those images?

01:18:00.720 --> 01:18:02.720 align:middle line:84%
How can you describe
them succinctly

01:18:02.720 --> 01:18:06.610 align:middle line:84%
in a way that meets the needs
of somebody that can't see them?

01:18:06.610 --> 01:18:12.080 align:middle line:84%
And for a logo, it may simply
be something like "NSF INCLUDES"

01:18:12.080 --> 01:18:14.930 align:middle line:90%
or "NSF INCLUDES logo."

01:18:14.930 --> 01:18:16.850 align:middle line:84%
Or in the case of
the NSF logo, it

01:18:16.850 --> 01:18:21.620 align:middle line:90%
may just be "NSF" or "NSF logo."

01:18:21.620 --> 01:18:23.840 align:middle line:84%
The other images are
a bit more complex,

01:18:23.840 --> 01:18:26.210 align:middle line:84%
and therefore that would
require a little bit more

01:18:26.210 --> 01:18:30.170 align:middle line:84%
thought into how best
to communicate what's

01:18:30.170 --> 01:18:31.880 align:middle line:90%
happening in this picture?

01:18:31.880 --> 01:18:35.720 align:middle line:84%
What is the key takeaway
within this picture?

01:18:35.720 --> 01:18:39.440 align:middle line:84%
And that really
requires the person

01:18:39.440 --> 01:18:41.540 align:middle line:84%
who owns the website
who is having

01:18:41.540 --> 01:18:43.565 align:middle line:84%
this communication
with their audience,

01:18:43.565 --> 01:18:45.980 align:middle line:84%
it requires them
thinking about that

01:18:45.980 --> 01:18:47.720 align:middle line:90%
and answering that question.

01:18:47.720 --> 01:18:52.230 align:middle line:84%
As an outsider, I see
the silhouette of people,

01:18:52.230 --> 01:18:54.680 align:middle line:84%
and it looks like a diverse
group of people gathered

01:18:54.680 --> 01:18:58.760 align:middle line:84%
around the table, including
one wheelchair user who's

01:18:58.760 --> 01:19:00.410 align:middle line:90%
sitting at the table.

01:19:00.410 --> 01:19:03.440 align:middle line:84%
But there are also
some key concepts

01:19:03.440 --> 01:19:07.580 align:middle line:90%
in the iconography above.

01:19:07.580 --> 01:19:09.830 align:middle line:84%
In fact, some of those
are expressed with words--

01:19:09.830 --> 01:19:13.550 align:middle line:84%
vision, partnership,
goals, metrics, leadership,

01:19:13.550 --> 01:19:18.800 align:middle line:84%
communication, expansion,
sustainability, scale.

01:19:18.800 --> 01:19:22.820 align:middle line:84%
So wherever there are
words in an image,

01:19:22.820 --> 01:19:25.610 align:middle line:84%
if those are playing a key
role in the communication,

01:19:25.610 --> 01:19:28.797 align:middle line:84%
then they need to be
included in the alt text.

01:19:28.797 --> 01:19:29.630 align:middle line:90%
So that's one thing.

01:19:29.630 --> 01:19:31.490 align:middle line:84%
You've got images that
need to be described

01:19:31.490 --> 01:19:33.360 align:middle line:90%
for people that can't see them.

01:19:33.360 --> 01:19:34.610 align:middle line:90%
Another thing is headings.

01:19:34.610 --> 01:19:38.450 align:middle line:84%
It really is important
to have headings that are

01:19:38.450 --> 01:19:41.700 align:middle line:90%
coded properly for the content.

01:19:41.700 --> 01:19:43.790 align:middle line:84%
So on this page,
we've got "About us--

01:19:43.790 --> 01:19:47.750 align:middle line:84%
NSF INCLUDES" as a
prominent heading.

01:19:47.750 --> 01:19:51.620 align:middle line:84%
I would say that, arguably, is
the main heading of this page,

01:19:51.620 --> 01:19:56.440 align:middle line:84%
and therefore it should be
coded with an H1 tag in HTML.

01:19:56.440 --> 01:19:59.720 align:middle line:84%
And we'll talk in
a bit more detail

01:19:59.720 --> 01:20:02.240 align:middle line:90%
about headings coming up.

01:20:02.240 --> 01:20:04.500 align:middle line:84%
Other things that
jump out at me here

01:20:04.500 --> 01:20:09.440 align:middle line:84%
are that we've got
a menu that has--

01:20:09.440 --> 01:20:10.580 align:middle line:90%
looks like dropdown menus.

01:20:10.580 --> 01:20:12.380 align:middle line:84%
I can tell by the
little arrow that's

01:20:12.380 --> 01:20:14.570 align:middle line:84%
beside some of the
items on the menu

01:20:14.570 --> 01:20:17.570 align:middle line:84%
"About Us" and
"Groups" and "Events."

01:20:17.570 --> 01:20:22.040 align:middle line:84%
And if that is a dropdown menu
that is triggered by a mouse,

01:20:22.040 --> 01:20:24.350 align:middle line:84%
particularly by
hovering with a mouse,

01:20:24.350 --> 01:20:26.870 align:middle line:84%
then I want to know
can I access those menu

01:20:26.870 --> 01:20:29.170 align:middle line:90%
items with a keyboard?

01:20:29.170 --> 01:20:31.960 align:middle line:84%
And if I'm tabbing
through this page--

01:20:31.960 --> 01:20:34.630 align:middle line:84%
like a couple of the people that
you met a moment ago are not

01:20:34.630 --> 01:20:38.320 align:middle line:84%
mouse users, so they're
using a keyboard

01:20:38.320 --> 01:20:40.120 align:middle line:90%
or they're using speech input.

01:20:40.120 --> 01:20:43.900 align:middle line:84%
Can they trigger the
menu with the mouse?

01:20:43.900 --> 01:20:46.420 align:middle line:90%
Can they access the menu items?

01:20:46.420 --> 01:20:50.020 align:middle line:90%
So that is a key consideration.

01:20:50.020 --> 01:20:53.430 align:middle line:84%
Also, color contrast
is important.

01:20:53.430 --> 01:20:56.030 align:middle line:90%
And I question-- again.

01:20:56.030 --> 01:20:59.740 align:middle line:84%
I'm not here to critique this
particular website, but I do

01:20:59.740 --> 01:21:02.860 align:middle line:90%
question whether the subtitle--

01:21:02.860 --> 01:21:05.700 align:middle line:84%
"Broadening Participation,
Expanding Opportunities,"

01:21:05.700 --> 01:21:09.700 align:middle line:84%
that lime green on
white looks like content

01:21:09.700 --> 01:21:13.780 align:middle line:84%
that might fail the
accessibility requirements

01:21:13.780 --> 01:21:15.820 align:middle line:90%
for color contrast.

01:21:15.820 --> 01:21:17.440 align:middle line:84%
And that would be
something to check.

01:21:17.440 --> 01:21:19.630 align:middle line:84%
There are lots of free
tools available for checking

01:21:19.630 --> 01:21:20.860 align:middle line:90%
color contrast.

01:21:20.860 --> 01:21:24.760 align:middle line:84%
We'll talk about the tools
and about the requirements

01:21:24.760 --> 01:21:26.647 align:middle line:90%
in a moment.

01:21:26.647 --> 01:21:27.730 align:middle line:90%
So here's another website.

01:21:27.730 --> 01:21:29.530 align:middle line:90%
I actually just tossed this in.

01:21:29.530 --> 01:21:31.510 align:middle line:90%
It has all the same issues.

01:21:31.510 --> 01:21:33.490 align:middle line:84%
It raises all the
same questions.

01:21:33.490 --> 01:21:37.330 align:middle line:84%
You've got a menu
that has dropdowns,

01:21:37.330 --> 01:21:40.670 align:middle line:84%
and so you want to know whether
you can access those keyboard.

01:21:40.670 --> 01:21:43.970 align:middle line:84%
It also has a clear,
visible heading structure.

01:21:43.970 --> 01:21:46.060 align:middle line:84%
And so hopefully,
it's coded in a way

01:21:46.060 --> 01:21:49.390 align:middle line:84%
that where accessible
technology at the UW

01:21:49.390 --> 01:21:51.400 align:middle line:90%
is the heading level 1.

01:21:51.400 --> 01:21:54.010 align:middle line:84%
And then, you've got a
couple of subheadings--

01:21:54.010 --> 01:21:57.760 align:middle line:84%
"Experiencing Inaccessible IT"
and "Accessible Technology"

01:21:57.760 --> 01:21:58.750 align:middle line:90%
over in the sidebar.

01:21:58.750 --> 01:22:01.960 align:middle line:84%
Both look like they are
secondary headings, which

01:22:01.960 --> 01:22:03.025 align:middle line:90%
would be heading level 2.

01:22:03.025 --> 01:22:05.740 align:middle line:90%


01:22:05.740 --> 01:22:08.080 align:middle line:84%
But mainly, I just wanted
to introduce this website

01:22:08.080 --> 01:22:13.310 align:middle line:84%
because this is really
a great go-to resource.

01:22:13.310 --> 01:22:16.260 align:middle line:84%
This is how we communicate
with our campus community

01:22:16.260 --> 01:22:18.340 align:middle line:90%
on accessible technology.

01:22:18.340 --> 01:22:24.370 align:middle line:84%
But us.edu/accessibility--
I'll be referring to this page

01:22:24.370 --> 01:22:26.380 align:middle line:90%
on several subsequent slides.

01:22:26.380 --> 01:22:30.493 align:middle line:90%


01:22:30.493 --> 01:22:31.910 align:middle line:84%
So that's just a
few of the things

01:22:31.910 --> 01:22:33.810 align:middle line:84%
we can look at with
accessible websites.

01:22:33.810 --> 01:22:36.730 align:middle line:84%
And we'll come back
to those in a bit.

01:22:36.730 --> 01:22:40.130 align:middle line:84%
I first want to give you
a high-level overview.

01:22:40.130 --> 01:22:43.730 align:middle line:84%
And accessible
documents have a lot

01:22:43.730 --> 01:22:46.580 align:middle line:84%
of the same issues with
documents as with websites.

01:22:46.580 --> 01:22:49.680 align:middle line:84%
And they all really
come down to structure.

01:22:49.680 --> 01:22:53.640 align:middle line:84%
So here, we have
a course syllabus.

01:22:53.640 --> 01:22:56.750 align:middle line:84%
This is the Introduction to
Physics Course Syllabus that

01:22:56.750 --> 01:22:58.220 align:middle line:84%
includes a lot of
the things you'd

01:22:58.220 --> 01:23:01.820 align:middle line:84%
expect to find in a syllabus,
like the course objectives

01:23:01.820 --> 01:23:05.030 align:middle line:84%
and a schedule with
reading assignments

01:23:05.030 --> 01:23:07.490 align:middle line:84%
broken down week by week, and
some information about how

01:23:07.490 --> 01:23:10.610 align:middle line:90%
the grades are determined.

01:23:10.610 --> 01:23:13.760 align:middle line:84%
But if you are a sighted
person and you're

01:23:13.760 --> 01:23:16.687 align:middle line:84%
trying to make sense
of this, it doesn't

01:23:16.687 --> 01:23:17.770 align:middle line:90%
make a whole lot of sense.

01:23:17.770 --> 01:23:19.670 align:middle line:90%
It's just a blob of text.

01:23:19.670 --> 01:23:25.460 align:middle line:84%
And if I were to ask you what is
the reading assignment in week

01:23:25.460 --> 01:23:28.970 align:middle line:84%
three, then you're going to have
a really hard time coming up

01:23:28.970 --> 01:23:30.200 align:middle line:90%
with that information.

01:23:30.200 --> 01:23:32.330 align:middle line:84%
Even if I ask you something
relatively simple,

01:23:32.330 --> 01:23:35.000 align:middle line:84%
like how many course
objectives are there?

01:23:35.000 --> 01:23:38.690 align:middle line:84%
That's really difficult to
answer that question, given

01:23:38.690 --> 01:23:41.460 align:middle line:90%
the way this is presented.

01:23:41.460 --> 01:23:45.920 align:middle line:84%
So if we present it
in a different way--

01:23:45.920 --> 01:23:51.710 align:middle line:84%
this is the exact same document,
but now we have structure,

01:23:51.710 --> 01:23:53.540 align:middle line:90%
where you have a main heading--

01:23:53.540 --> 01:23:55.460 align:middle line:84%
Introduction to Physics
Course Syllabus.

01:23:55.460 --> 01:23:58.640 align:middle line:84%
You have subheadings,
Textbook, Course Objectives,

01:23:58.640 --> 01:24:00.500 align:middle line:90%
Class Schedule, and Grades.

01:24:00.500 --> 01:24:02.600 align:middle line:84%
You've got a list of
objectives, and you

01:24:02.600 --> 01:24:05.540 align:middle line:84%
can see very easily that there
are three objectives by looking

01:24:05.540 --> 01:24:06.860 align:middle line:90%
at that list.

01:24:06.860 --> 01:24:09.140 align:middle line:84%
And then you've got your
class schedule, which

01:24:09.140 --> 01:24:10.460 align:middle line:90%
is organized in the tables.

01:24:10.460 --> 01:24:13.160 align:middle line:84%
You get rows and
columns of data that

01:24:13.160 --> 01:24:16.560 align:middle line:84%
help you to understand the
relationships between all

01:24:16.560 --> 01:24:18.210 align:middle line:90%
the parts.

01:24:18.210 --> 01:24:22.310 align:middle line:84%
So the message that I'm
wanting to communicate

01:24:22.310 --> 01:24:26.570 align:middle line:84%
with this slide versus
the previous slide

01:24:26.570 --> 01:24:32.560 align:middle line:84%
is that for somebody who can't
see the visible structure,

01:24:32.560 --> 01:24:36.190 align:middle line:84%
if the headings are just
big, bold text but they

01:24:36.190 --> 01:24:39.070 align:middle line:84%
aren't actually
coded as headings,

01:24:39.070 --> 01:24:42.300 align:middle line:90%
then this is what you get.

01:24:42.300 --> 01:24:44.330 align:middle line:90%
You get a blob of text.

01:24:44.330 --> 01:24:48.020 align:middle line:84%
If you can't see the fact
that text is big and bold

01:24:48.020 --> 01:24:51.530 align:middle line:84%
and you're depending on
the underlying structure,

01:24:51.530 --> 01:24:55.170 align:middle line:90%
then this is what you get.

01:24:55.170 --> 01:24:58.550 align:middle line:84%
So if you think about
the implications of that.

01:24:58.550 --> 01:25:02.300 align:middle line:84%
This is a tough course,
and this is only

01:25:02.300 --> 01:25:04.550 align:middle line:90%
the syllabus of that course.

01:25:04.550 --> 01:25:08.030 align:middle line:84%
And the student is taking
many tough courses.

01:25:08.030 --> 01:25:10.760 align:middle line:84%
And if every document is
going to be this hard to read,

01:25:10.760 --> 01:25:13.310 align:middle line:84%
imagine how challenging
it's going to be

01:25:13.310 --> 01:25:16.330 align:middle line:90%
to complete your education.

01:25:16.330 --> 01:25:19.740 align:middle line:84%
So if you've got the
headings coded as headings,

01:25:19.740 --> 01:25:22.860 align:middle line:84%
and the lists as lists,
and the tables as tables,

01:25:22.860 --> 01:25:26.700 align:middle line:84%
and everything is
properly marked up,

01:25:26.700 --> 01:25:32.910 align:middle line:84%
then a person who can't
see gets the same content,

01:25:32.910 --> 01:25:36.450 align:middle line:84%
the same document, essentially,
as somebody who can.

01:25:36.450 --> 01:25:38.610 align:middle line:84%
So all that structure
enables them

01:25:38.610 --> 01:25:41.520 align:middle line:84%
to understand the
relationships between parts.

01:25:41.520 --> 01:25:44.310 align:middle line:84%
And screen readers
have the ability

01:25:44.310 --> 01:25:47.145 align:middle line:84%
to allow their users to
jump from heading to heading

01:25:47.145 --> 01:25:48.390 align:middle line:90%
to heading, for example.

01:25:48.390 --> 01:25:50.730 align:middle line:84%
And when they enter
a list, it informs

01:25:50.730 --> 01:25:53.430 align:middle line:84%
them of how many
items are in the list.

01:25:53.430 --> 01:25:56.490 align:middle line:84%
And there are shortcuts for
navigating through the rows

01:25:56.490 --> 01:25:58.380 align:middle line:90%
and columns of a table.

01:25:58.380 --> 01:26:03.870 align:middle line:84%
And so having good structure is
really the most important thing

01:26:03.870 --> 01:26:06.810 align:middle line:84%
to making websites
accessible and to making

01:26:06.810 --> 01:26:09.240 align:middle line:90%
digital documents accessible.

01:26:09.240 --> 01:26:15.820 align:middle line:84%
And structure is supported by
every major document format.

01:26:15.820 --> 01:26:20.820 align:middle line:84%
So whether it be HTML for
web pates, or Word, or PDF,

01:26:20.820 --> 01:26:24.120 align:middle line:84%
you've got structure built
into those platforms,

01:26:24.120 --> 01:26:26.070 align:middle line:90%
but it's not automatic.

01:26:26.070 --> 01:26:30.300 align:middle line:84%
And so as a document
author or website author,

01:26:30.300 --> 01:26:34.080 align:middle line:84%
you have to understand the
importance of structure

01:26:34.080 --> 01:26:37.650 align:middle line:84%
and make sure that you tag
things appropriately or author

01:26:37.650 --> 01:26:41.250 align:middle line:84%
things appropriately so that
that structure is present

01:26:41.250 --> 01:26:43.800 align:middle line:84%
and is appropriate for
communicating the content.

01:26:43.800 --> 01:26:46.630 align:middle line:90%


01:26:46.630 --> 01:26:48.940 align:middle line:90%
So we'll come back to that.

01:26:48.940 --> 01:26:51.940 align:middle line:84%
But just, again, a high-level
overview initially.

01:26:51.940 --> 01:26:54.410 align:middle line:90%
Now, an accessible video--

01:26:54.410 --> 01:26:57.340 align:middle line:84%
of course, we need
to have captions.

01:26:57.340 --> 01:27:02.650 align:middle line:84%
So if there's audio content
that a person can't hear,

01:27:02.650 --> 01:27:06.800 align:middle line:84%
then they've got access
to that audio content.

01:27:06.800 --> 01:27:08.850 align:middle line:84%
A lot of people
aren't aware, though,

01:27:08.850 --> 01:27:12.410 align:middle line:84%
aren't thinking about how
a person who can't see

01:27:12.410 --> 01:27:14.480 align:middle line:90%
accesses video.

01:27:14.480 --> 01:27:17.650 align:middle line:84%
This is a video from
YouTube from the UW.

01:27:17.650 --> 01:27:19.280 align:middle line:84%
It's one of our
more popular videos

01:27:19.280 --> 01:27:21.710 align:middle line:84%
as scientists witness
underwater volcanic

01:27:21.710 --> 01:27:24.190 align:middle line:90%
eruption for the first time.

01:27:24.190 --> 01:27:27.340 align:middle line:84%
There is some narration,
which is captioned.

01:27:27.340 --> 01:27:31.630 align:middle line:84%
But there's also a lot of
content that is visual only,

01:27:31.630 --> 01:27:32.650 align:middle line:90%
so nobody's talking.

01:27:32.650 --> 01:27:37.300 align:middle line:84%
We're just watching this
volcanic eruption happen.

01:27:37.300 --> 01:27:39.270 align:middle line:84%
And so if somebody
can't see, they

01:27:39.270 --> 01:27:42.680 align:middle line:84%
don't get a full understanding
of what's happening,

01:27:42.680 --> 01:27:45.960 align:middle line:84%
what exactly is going
on in this video, which

01:27:45.960 --> 01:27:50.250 align:middle line:84%
is where audio description
also is an important thing

01:27:50.250 --> 01:27:51.270 align:middle line:90%
to consider.

01:27:51.270 --> 01:27:54.060 align:middle line:84%
If you have a video that
has important content that

01:27:54.060 --> 01:27:58.330 align:middle line:84%
is communicated only
with visual information,

01:27:58.330 --> 01:28:01.530 align:middle line:84%
then somebody who can't see
that doesn't have access.

01:28:01.530 --> 01:28:05.010 align:middle line:84%
So there are techniques
called audio description

01:28:05.010 --> 01:28:10.620 align:middle line:84%
which enable you to communicate
that to people that can't see.

01:28:10.620 --> 01:28:13.140 align:middle line:84%
Another piece of the
video accessibility puzzle

01:28:13.140 --> 01:28:17.510 align:middle line:84%
is the player itself
that there are

01:28:17.510 --> 01:28:21.760 align:middle line:84%
a lot of different media players
out there, video players.

01:28:21.760 --> 01:28:25.800 align:middle line:84%
And if you are not a
mouse user, you still

01:28:25.800 --> 01:28:28.560 align:middle line:84%
need to be able to click
the play button or any

01:28:28.560 --> 01:28:30.450 align:middle line:90%
of those other buttons.

01:28:30.450 --> 01:28:33.090 align:middle line:84%
And so can you do that
with the keyboard?

01:28:33.090 --> 01:28:36.155 align:middle line:84%
Can you do that
with speech input?

01:28:36.155 --> 01:28:37.530 align:middle line:84%
Those are questions
that you have

01:28:37.530 --> 01:28:39.780 align:middle line:84%
to consider as you're
choosing how you're

01:28:39.780 --> 01:28:41.760 align:middle line:90%
going to distribute your video.

01:28:41.760 --> 01:28:44.180 align:middle line:84%
And the YouTube player, it
seems like a lot of video

01:28:44.180 --> 01:28:48.210 align:middle line:84%
is being distributed via
YouTube these days or Vimeo.

01:28:48.210 --> 01:28:53.460 align:middle line:84%
And both of those are
controllable with the keyboard.

01:28:53.460 --> 01:28:56.060 align:middle line:84%
And so that's a
pretty good choice

01:28:56.060 --> 01:28:57.420 align:middle line:90%
that you can't access those.

01:28:57.420 --> 01:29:01.230 align:middle line:84%
And the buttons are labeled
well for screen reader users.

01:29:01.230 --> 01:29:04.330 align:middle line:90%


01:29:04.330 --> 01:29:08.410 align:middle line:84%
Accessible vendor products--
let's take Zoom for an example.

01:29:08.410 --> 01:29:12.550 align:middle line:84%
Here's a screenshot
from a Zoom meeting.

01:29:12.550 --> 01:29:16.510 align:middle line:84%
In fact, I just finished
my slide deck this morning,

01:29:16.510 --> 01:29:19.360 align:middle line:84%
so you've got today's
Zoom meeting shown here

01:29:19.360 --> 01:29:21.220 align:middle line:90%
on this slide.

01:29:21.220 --> 01:29:23.620 align:middle line:84%
But obviously,
you've got captions,

01:29:23.620 --> 01:29:24.850 align:middle line:90%
and so that's a good thing.

01:29:24.850 --> 01:29:26.680 align:middle line:84%
We know that if
there are people who

01:29:26.680 --> 01:29:28.830 align:middle line:84%
are deaf or hard of
hearing that read captions,

01:29:28.830 --> 01:29:31.860 align:middle line:90%
then you've got access to those.

01:29:31.860 --> 01:29:36.520 align:middle line:84%
So Zoom provides
that, and that's good.

01:29:36.520 --> 01:29:42.460 align:middle line:84%
Zoom also provides access
to almost every feature

01:29:42.460 --> 01:29:44.140 align:middle line:90%
via the keyboard.

01:29:44.140 --> 01:29:49.030 align:middle line:84%
So you don't have to be a
mouse user to access things.

01:29:49.030 --> 01:29:52.660 align:middle line:84%
You can test that yourself by
tabbing around and exploring

01:29:52.660 --> 01:29:53.290 align:middle line:90%
the interface.

01:29:53.290 --> 01:29:55.630 align:middle line:84%
You can usually
see where you are.

01:29:55.630 --> 01:29:59.230 align:middle line:84%
There's clear, visible
focus as you're tabbing.

01:29:59.230 --> 01:30:01.510 align:middle line:84%
And there are also
keyboard shortcuts

01:30:01.510 --> 01:30:05.200 align:middle line:90%
to almost every feature.

01:30:05.200 --> 01:30:07.510 align:middle line:84%
And the Zoom
accessibility website

01:30:07.510 --> 01:30:10.840 align:middle line:84%
documents what those
keyboard shortcuts are.

01:30:10.840 --> 01:30:14.680 align:middle line:84%
So this is a vendor
product, where

01:30:14.680 --> 01:30:17.440 align:middle line:84%
it's a pretty good product
when it comes to accessibility.

01:30:17.440 --> 01:30:21.400 align:middle line:84%
The question came up earlier
about pitting one disability

01:30:21.400 --> 01:30:24.430 align:middle line:84%
group against another when
you're making choices.

01:30:24.430 --> 01:30:29.830 align:middle line:84%
And ideally, we want a product
that meets everybody's needs.

01:30:29.830 --> 01:30:31.750 align:middle line:84%
But this is one,
actually, where we

01:30:31.750 --> 01:30:36.670 align:middle line:84%
do have to make some
compromises because it's not

01:30:36.670 --> 01:30:41.620 align:middle line:84%
great for somebody who
uses sign language.

01:30:41.620 --> 01:30:44.680 align:middle line:84%
The way sign language
works in Zoom

01:30:44.680 --> 01:30:49.960 align:middle line:84%
is a sign language
interpreter signs in, just

01:30:49.960 --> 01:30:51.190 align:middle line:90%
like any other participant.

01:30:51.190 --> 01:30:53.290 align:middle line:84%
And they've got a
little video, just

01:30:53.290 --> 01:30:55.090 align:middle line:90%
like any other participant.

01:30:55.090 --> 01:30:58.120 align:middle line:84%
And the person who
needs that interpreter

01:30:58.120 --> 01:31:05.250 align:middle line:84%
can pin that person's video
so that it is always visible.

01:31:05.250 --> 01:31:07.210 align:middle line:84%
And they can do
side-by-side mode,

01:31:07.210 --> 01:31:10.930 align:middle line:84%
where you've got a pretty
large video of the presenter

01:31:10.930 --> 01:31:15.040 align:middle line:84%
or of the interpreter,
maybe next to the slides.

01:31:15.040 --> 01:31:18.910 align:middle line:84%
But a problem is you can only
pin one video, one person's

01:31:18.910 --> 01:31:20.050 align:middle line:90%
video at a time.

01:31:20.050 --> 01:31:23.290 align:middle line:84%
And so you can't
look at the presenter

01:31:23.290 --> 01:31:25.210 align:middle line:90%
and the interpreter both.

01:31:25.210 --> 01:31:27.370 align:middle line:84%
One of those is going
to have to be small,

01:31:27.370 --> 01:31:30.950 align:middle line:90%
while the other is pinned.

01:31:30.950 --> 01:31:34.240 align:middle line:84%
And usually, interpreters
work in pairs,

01:31:34.240 --> 01:31:35.870 align:middle line:84%
depending on how
long the meeting is.

01:31:35.870 --> 01:31:40.420 align:middle line:84%
And so when an interpreter hands
off to the next interpreter,

01:31:40.420 --> 01:31:43.270 align:middle line:84%
then you've got a
challenge as a user

01:31:43.270 --> 01:31:44.830 align:middle line:84%
because you've lost
your interpreter.

01:31:44.830 --> 01:31:47.500 align:middle line:84%
You have pinned one interpreter,
but the other is out there

01:31:47.500 --> 01:31:48.520 align:middle line:90%
somewhere interpreting.

01:31:48.520 --> 01:31:52.690 align:middle line:84%
And in a meeting like this where
we have over 100 participants,

01:31:52.690 --> 01:31:55.450 align:middle line:84%
then it can be very
difficult sometimes

01:31:55.450 --> 01:31:57.990 align:middle line:90%
to find your second interpreter.

01:31:57.990 --> 01:32:00.730 align:middle line:84%
So you've lost several
seconds of communication

01:32:00.730 --> 01:32:03.640 align:middle line:84%
by the time you find
them and pin them.

01:32:03.640 --> 01:32:06.270 align:middle line:84%
So Zoom, actually, is
working on all these things.

01:32:06.270 --> 01:32:08.530 align:middle line:84%
They have done a
lot of work to make

01:32:08.530 --> 01:32:11.500 align:middle line:84%
their product accessible
to screen reader users

01:32:11.500 --> 01:32:14.080 align:middle line:90%
and to keyboard users.

01:32:14.080 --> 01:32:16.330 align:middle line:84%
But they still have some
room for improvement

01:32:16.330 --> 01:32:18.790 align:middle line:84%
when it comes to deaf
and hard of hearing.

01:32:18.790 --> 01:32:21.750 align:middle line:84%
And so we have had to
make that compromise,

01:32:21.750 --> 01:32:25.840 align:middle line:84%
but we make it based
partly on culture,

01:32:25.840 --> 01:32:30.310 align:middle line:84%
that we trust Zoom because they
have expressed a commitment

01:32:30.310 --> 01:32:33.250 align:middle line:84%
to improving, and
they have a roadmap,

01:32:33.250 --> 01:32:35.470 align:middle line:84%
and we have a good
relationship with them.

01:32:35.470 --> 01:32:38.650 align:middle line:84%
But all of these things
have to be included

01:32:38.650 --> 01:32:40.650 align:middle line:90%
as you're choosing products.

01:32:40.650 --> 01:32:43.820 align:middle line:84%
Particularly now, as we're doing
more and more things online,

01:32:43.820 --> 01:32:45.280 align:middle line:84%
we're seeing a lot
of products that

01:32:45.280 --> 01:32:49.750 align:middle line:84%
are purchased quickly and
without enough due diligence

01:32:49.750 --> 01:32:53.980 align:middle line:84%
to ascertain whether this is
a product or a service that

01:32:53.980 --> 01:32:58.450 align:middle line:84%
is accessible, and how
accessible is the company?

01:32:58.450 --> 01:33:01.000 align:middle line:84%
Do they really care
about accessibility?

01:33:01.000 --> 01:33:03.310 align:middle line:90%
And what are they working on?

01:33:03.310 --> 01:33:07.570 align:middle line:84%
How do they build accessibility
into their workflows?

01:33:07.570 --> 01:33:10.160 align:middle line:84%
These are all things you'd have
to know when you're selecting

01:33:10.160 --> 01:33:15.250 align:middle line:84%
a product, and we'll talk about
that more in a moment as well.

01:33:15.250 --> 01:33:18.490 align:middle line:90%
So how is accessibility defined?

01:33:18.490 --> 01:33:23.160 align:middle line:84%
We've looked at a high
level at what do you

01:33:23.160 --> 01:33:25.680 align:middle line:84%
mean when we're talking
about website accessibility

01:33:25.680 --> 01:33:28.390 align:middle line:84%
and document accessibility
and so forth?

01:33:28.390 --> 01:33:30.900 align:middle line:84%
Well, there actually
are specific standards

01:33:30.900 --> 01:33:35.460 align:middle line:90%
that we need to meet.

01:33:35.460 --> 01:33:41.520 align:middle line:84%
Typically, standards related
to the web and to technology

01:33:41.520 --> 01:33:45.540 align:middle line:84%
are from the World Wide
Web Consortium, the W3C.

01:33:45.540 --> 01:33:47.550 align:middle line:84%
This is an organization
that Tim Berners-Lee,

01:33:47.550 --> 01:33:50.910 align:middle line:84%
the founder of the web or
the creator of the web,

01:33:50.910 --> 01:33:54.510 align:middle line:84%
founded this organization
back in the early '90s.

01:33:54.510 --> 01:33:59.550 align:middle line:84%
And they are the keepers
of the HTML specification,

01:33:59.550 --> 01:34:00.270 align:middle line:90%
for example--

01:34:00.270 --> 01:34:04.050 align:middle line:84%
Hypertext Markup Language,
the language of the web.

01:34:04.050 --> 01:34:07.980 align:middle line:84%
And that, by the way, has a lot
of accessibility built into it.

01:34:07.980 --> 01:34:12.270 align:middle line:84%
HTML has always had
accessibility built into it.

01:34:12.270 --> 01:34:16.950 align:middle line:84%
So that in and of itself
is a good language

01:34:16.950 --> 01:34:19.730 align:middle line:90%
for supporting accessibility.

01:34:19.730 --> 01:34:23.790 align:middle line:84%
The W3C also is the author of
the Web Content Accessibility

01:34:23.790 --> 01:34:25.800 align:middle line:90%
Guidelines, or WCAG.

01:34:25.800 --> 01:34:28.140 align:middle line:84%
That's been around
since the late '90s.

01:34:28.140 --> 01:34:30.870 align:middle line:84%
They actually started working
on it in the early '90s

01:34:30.870 --> 01:34:34.170 align:middle line:84%
very soon after the
web became a thing.

01:34:34.170 --> 01:34:41.220 align:middle line:84%
They were aware that there was
the potential to erect barriers

01:34:41.220 --> 01:34:43.740 align:middle line:84%
with the web, and that was
totally contrary to what

01:34:43.740 --> 01:34:44.670 align:middle line:90%
the vision was.

01:34:44.670 --> 01:34:48.960 align:middle line:84%
The vision was to break down
barriers and make information

01:34:48.960 --> 01:34:55.740 align:middle line:84%
available at your fingertips all
over the world whoever you are

01:34:55.740 --> 01:34:59.052 align:middle line:84%
and whatever sort of computing
technology you're using.

01:34:59.052 --> 01:35:00.510 align:middle line:84%
And so the fact
that there could be

01:35:00.510 --> 01:35:03.540 align:middle line:84%
barriers introduced
by the web was not

01:35:03.540 --> 01:35:06.380 align:middle line:90%
something the W3C wanted.

01:35:06.380 --> 01:35:11.190 align:middle line:84%
And so they created a group
within the W3C, the Web

01:35:11.190 --> 01:35:13.470 align:middle line:84%
Accessibility
Initiative, who began

01:35:13.470 --> 01:35:15.690 align:middle line:90%
working on these guidelines.

01:35:15.690 --> 01:35:19.590 align:middle line:84%
And so there have been many
versions since the '90s,

01:35:19.590 --> 01:35:21.480 align:middle line:84%
and we'll talk about
versions at a moment.

01:35:21.480 --> 01:35:29.710 align:middle line:84%
But WCAG is the standard for
web content accessibility.

01:35:29.710 --> 01:35:33.910 align:middle line:84%
And the W3C also has developed
a relatively new specification

01:35:33.910 --> 01:35:38.200 align:middle line:84%
called ARIA, which is Accessible
Rich Internet Applications.

01:35:38.200 --> 01:35:40.270 align:middle line:84%
This is a markup
language that makes

01:35:40.270 --> 01:35:45.160 align:middle line:84%
it possible to make
pretty complex,

01:35:45.160 --> 01:35:48.790 align:middle line:84%
dynamic, interactive
web applications

01:35:48.790 --> 01:35:54.340 align:middle line:84%
accessible to communicate what
exactly is going on in a way

01:35:54.340 --> 01:35:56.710 align:middle line:84%
that assistive technologies
can pick up on that

01:35:56.710 --> 01:35:58.060 align:middle line:90%
and relay that to their users.

01:35:58.060 --> 01:36:01.520 align:middle line:90%


01:36:01.520 --> 01:36:04.590 align:middle line:84%
So I mentioned that there are
different versions of WCAG.

01:36:04.590 --> 01:36:07.870 align:middle line:84%
I said many, but really not that
many, given how long it's been.

01:36:07.870 --> 01:36:12.460 align:middle line:84%
But WCAG 1, the first version,
was published in 1999.

01:36:12.460 --> 01:36:15.250 align:middle line:84%
And then, version 2
was published in 2008.

01:36:15.250 --> 01:36:18.310 align:middle line:84%
And then, the latest
official version

01:36:18.310 --> 01:36:23.560 align:middle line:84%
is 2.1, which was published
a couple of years ago.

01:36:23.560 --> 01:36:29.530 align:middle line:84%
And I've got WCAG 2.1 bolded
now because that is the most

01:36:29.530 --> 01:36:30.570 align:middle line:90%
recent.

01:36:30.570 --> 01:36:36.010 align:middle line:84%
But anything in the 2 dot
is where we need to land

01:36:36.010 --> 01:36:39.430 align:middle line:84%
and we're talking about
accessibility expectations

01:36:39.430 --> 01:36:42.700 align:middle line:84%
from a legal standpoint
and a policy standpoint.

01:36:42.700 --> 01:36:45.310 align:middle line:84%
There have been a
very large number

01:36:45.310 --> 01:36:51.370 align:middle line:84%
of legal complaints,
lawsuits, in some cases,

01:36:51.370 --> 01:36:54.880 align:middle line:90%
related to web accessibility.

01:36:54.880 --> 01:36:59.320 align:middle line:84%
And almost invariably, the
resolutions or the settlements

01:36:59.320 --> 01:37:02.110 align:middle line:84%
that come out of
those cases require

01:37:02.110 --> 01:37:09.010 align:middle line:84%
that the defendant meet
WCAG 2.0, or more recently,

01:37:09.010 --> 01:37:10.330 align:middle line:90%
WCAG 2.1.

01:37:10.330 --> 01:37:15.780 align:middle line:84%
So that's the version that
we're standardized on.

01:37:15.780 --> 01:37:18.140 align:middle line:84%
So if we look more closely
at that new version,

01:37:18.140 --> 01:37:24.270 align:middle line:84%
WCAG 2.1, as well
as WCAG 2.0, there

01:37:24.270 --> 01:37:27.240 align:middle line:84%
are four broad principles
that serve as the entry point.

01:37:27.240 --> 01:37:30.680 align:middle line:90%


01:37:30.680 --> 01:37:33.680 align:middle line:84%
In order for content
to be accessible,

01:37:33.680 --> 01:37:41.440 align:middle line:84%
it needs to be perceivable,
operable, understandable,

01:37:41.440 --> 01:37:43.630 align:middle line:90%
and robust.

01:37:43.630 --> 01:37:47.970 align:middle line:84%
So rather than explaining
each of those principles,

01:37:47.970 --> 01:37:52.320 align:middle line:84%
it's sometimes easier to
delve into the details.

01:37:52.320 --> 01:37:56.100 align:middle line:84%
And the finest level
of detail within WCAG

01:37:56.100 --> 01:37:58.590 align:middle line:90%
are the success criteria.

01:37:58.590 --> 01:38:02.560 align:middle line:84%
There are 79 of
those in WCAG 2.1.

01:38:02.560 --> 01:38:07.590 align:middle line:84%
And those are the nuts
and bolts of add alt text

01:38:07.590 --> 01:38:09.110 align:middle line:90%
to images, that sort of thing.

01:38:09.110 --> 01:38:11.436 align:middle line:90%
Add headings to your document.

01:38:11.436 --> 01:38:13.940 align:middle line:84%
They express a little
differently than that,

01:38:13.940 --> 01:38:16.020 align:middle line:84%
but those are the
ideas that are captured

01:38:16.020 --> 01:38:19.320 align:middle line:90%
at the success criterion level.

01:38:19.320 --> 01:38:21.750 align:middle line:84%
And each of those
success criteria

01:38:21.750 --> 01:38:27.870 align:middle line:84%
is assigned a level,
either A, AA, or AAA,

01:38:27.870 --> 01:38:32.520 align:middle line:84%
depending on how critical
it is for making sure

01:38:32.520 --> 01:38:35.010 align:middle line:84%
that you don't just
completely shut out

01:38:35.010 --> 01:38:38.760 align:middle line:84%
particular groups of users,
but also how difficult it is.

01:38:38.760 --> 01:38:41.370 align:middle line:84%
There are some things
that fall to level AAA,

01:38:41.370 --> 01:38:47.560 align:middle line:84%
just because they're extremely
challenging to implement.

01:38:47.560 --> 01:38:49.940 align:middle line:84%
I have level A
level AA bolded here

01:38:49.940 --> 01:38:54.470 align:middle line:84%
because those same legal
cases over the years

01:38:54.470 --> 01:39:01.910 align:middle line:84%
have clearly expressed that
level AA is the bar, that that

01:39:01.910 --> 01:39:08.870 align:middle line:84%
is what we're expected to meet
is WCAG 2.0 or 2.1 level AA,

01:39:08.870 --> 01:39:13.770 align:middle line:84%
which also means we need to meet
the level A success criteria.

01:39:13.770 --> 01:39:14.870 align:middle line:90%
So that is our standard.

01:39:14.870 --> 01:39:18.290 align:middle line:84%
We're trying to meet the
latest version of WCAG,

01:39:18.290 --> 01:39:22.820 align:middle line:84%
and there are 51 success
criteria at level A and level

01:39:22.820 --> 01:39:26.800 align:middle line:90%
AA that we need to meet.

01:39:26.800 --> 01:39:30.130 align:middle line:84%
So let's just focus in
on how do we do this?

01:39:30.130 --> 01:39:33.990 align:middle line:84%
I'll provide a few simple
tips that give you the how

01:39:33.990 --> 01:39:40.400 align:middle line:84%
to of each of the
technologies we've looked at.

01:39:40.400 --> 01:39:46.430 align:middle line:84%
First of all, with websites, you
start by identifying your goal.

01:39:46.430 --> 01:39:49.820 align:middle line:84%
And that, in many
ways, has been set

01:39:49.820 --> 01:39:55.310 align:middle line:84%
for us because of all the legal
resolutions and settlements.

01:39:55.310 --> 01:39:59.420 align:middle line:84%
Because WCAG 2.1 has now
been around since 2018,

01:39:59.420 --> 01:40:01.970 align:middle line:84%
that is now the
expectation that we

01:40:01.970 --> 01:40:05.045 align:middle line:90%
would meet WCAG 2.1 level AA.

01:40:05.045 --> 01:40:08.010 align:middle line:84%
The big difference
between 2.1 and 2.0--

01:40:08.010 --> 01:40:09.200 align:middle line:90%
there are a few.

01:40:09.200 --> 01:40:11.300 align:middle line:84%
But probably, the
biggest is that it now

01:40:11.300 --> 01:40:14.540 align:middle line:84%
includes mobile devices
and accessibility

01:40:14.540 --> 01:40:16.100 align:middle line:90%
on mobile devices.

01:40:16.100 --> 01:40:20.720 align:middle line:84%
Since so many people are using
a mobile device now rather than

01:40:20.720 --> 01:40:24.440 align:middle line:84%
a desktop, then
your website needs

01:40:24.440 --> 01:40:26.150 align:middle line:84%
to be accessible
on a mobile device.

01:40:26.150 --> 01:40:30.140 align:middle line:84%
And so there are some specific
success criteria in 2.1

01:40:30.140 --> 01:40:31.100 align:middle line:90%
that address that.

01:40:31.100 --> 01:40:33.710 align:middle line:90%


01:40:33.710 --> 01:40:37.330 align:middle line:84%
So another tip then is if you're
outsourcing your web design

01:40:37.330 --> 01:40:41.230 align:middle line:84%
or development, then include
the accessibility requirements

01:40:41.230 --> 01:40:42.120 align:middle line:90%
in the contract.

01:40:42.120 --> 01:40:46.490 align:middle line:84%
So you define your accessibility
as WCAG 2.1 level AA.

01:40:46.490 --> 01:40:50.300 align:middle line:84%
Make sure that whoever is doing
the design and the development,

01:40:50.300 --> 01:40:52.700 align:middle line:84%
whether that be
internal or external,

01:40:52.700 --> 01:40:54.920 align:middle line:84%
they need to know that
that's the target.

01:40:54.920 --> 01:40:58.970 align:middle line:84%
This is what your expectations
are for the website

01:40:58.970 --> 01:41:02.020 align:middle line:90%
that they deliver.

01:41:02.020 --> 01:41:05.020 align:middle line:84%
Another tip is to take
the #nomouse challenge.

01:41:05.020 --> 01:41:06.430 align:middle line:84%
And we've got a
hashtag for that.

01:41:06.430 --> 01:41:10.960 align:middle line:84%
So if you do this and you're
a social media person,

01:41:10.960 --> 01:41:14.620 align:middle line:84%
then tweet about it and
help us to spread the word.

01:41:14.620 --> 01:41:16.600 align:middle line:84%
But taking the
#nomouse challenge

01:41:16.600 --> 01:41:18.685 align:middle line:84%
is a really simple way to
check the accessibility

01:41:18.685 --> 01:41:19.840 align:middle line:90%
of your website.

01:41:19.840 --> 01:41:23.860 align:middle line:84%
Just try using the keyboard
to access your website.

01:41:23.860 --> 01:41:25.360 align:middle line:90%
Don't touch the mouse.

01:41:25.360 --> 01:41:30.160 align:middle line:84%
Just use the Tab key to
navigate through the website,

01:41:30.160 --> 01:41:34.270 align:middle line:84%
and then use other keys that
make sense, like Enter or Space

01:41:34.270 --> 01:41:37.630 align:middle line:90%
to activate buttons or links.

01:41:37.630 --> 01:41:41.200 align:middle line:84%
And sometimes, other keys
make sense, like arrow keys

01:41:41.200 --> 01:41:43.740 align:middle line:90%
or the Escape key.

01:41:43.740 --> 01:41:47.520 align:middle line:84%
If it doesn't work
with keyboard or if you

01:41:47.520 --> 01:41:49.980 align:middle line:84%
can't tell where you
are with keyboard,

01:41:49.980 --> 01:41:52.110 align:middle line:84%
then that's an indication
that you probably

01:41:52.110 --> 01:41:55.140 align:middle line:84%
have some deeper accessibility
problems that you're

01:41:55.140 --> 01:41:58.875 align:middle line:84%
going to need to check out,
investigate more thoroughly.

01:41:58.875 --> 01:42:01.850 align:middle line:90%


01:42:01.850 --> 01:42:05.530 align:middle line:84%
Another tip is just to learn
more about web accessibility.

01:42:05.530 --> 01:42:08.570 align:middle line:84%
And so the website that
I mentioned earlier,

01:42:08.570 --> 01:42:15.100 align:middle line:84%
our own website,
uw.edu/accessibility is

01:42:15.100 --> 01:42:19.450 align:middle line:84%
our effort to teach our own web
design development community.

01:42:19.450 --> 01:42:21.310 align:middle line:84%
There's a lot of
information out there

01:42:21.310 --> 01:42:24.890 align:middle line:84%
on our website about
web accessibility,

01:42:24.890 --> 01:42:30.980 align:middle line:84%
including a page that has a
number of free accessibility

01:42:30.980 --> 01:42:31.880 align:middle line:90%
checkers.

01:42:31.880 --> 01:42:34.360 align:middle line:84%
There are lots of
them out there--

01:42:34.360 --> 01:42:37.700 align:middle line:84%
website accessibility checkers,
color contrast accessibility

01:42:37.700 --> 01:42:41.570 align:middle line:84%
checkers, lots of
different toolbars

01:42:41.570 --> 01:42:46.060 align:middle line:84%
and downloadable
software and websites.

01:42:46.060 --> 01:42:49.970 align:middle line:84%
And this is a hand-picked
list of checkers

01:42:49.970 --> 01:42:55.070 align:middle line:84%
that we use and we like
a lot, and it's annotated

01:42:55.070 --> 01:42:57.380 align:middle line:84%
so you can see
description of each one.

01:42:57.380 --> 01:43:01.710 align:middle line:84%
So to access our list of tools,
just go to the main website,

01:43:01.710 --> 01:43:07.850 align:middle line:84%
uw.edu/accessibility/tools, and
that's where you'll find that

01:43:07.850 --> 01:43:10.360 align:middle line:90%
list.

01:43:10.360 --> 01:43:14.560 align:middle line:84%
For accessibility
of documents, always

01:43:14.560 --> 01:43:18.700 align:middle line:84%
ask what's the best format for
delivering this information?

01:43:18.700 --> 01:43:24.900 align:middle line:84%
We see so frequently
people disseminating PDFs.

01:43:24.900 --> 01:43:29.980 align:middle line:84%
And it's just text
that doesn't really--

01:43:29.980 --> 01:43:32.680 align:middle line:84%
a PDF is not in the best
format for delivering

01:43:32.680 --> 01:43:34.090 align:middle line:90%
a lot of content.

01:43:34.090 --> 01:43:38.860 align:middle line:84%
So it's probably the best
format if the format,

01:43:38.860 --> 01:43:42.490 align:middle line:84%
if the actual visual structure
of the document, is critical

01:43:42.490 --> 01:43:46.550 align:middle line:84%
and you need to make sure
that that's preserved.

01:43:46.550 --> 01:43:51.060 align:middle line:84%
Like on a lot of federal
forms, this is a requirement.

01:43:51.060 --> 01:43:53.650 align:middle line:84%
But if that's not
important, then PDF

01:43:53.650 --> 01:43:55.840 align:middle line:90%
might not be the best choice.

01:43:55.840 --> 01:43:58.300 align:middle line:84%
Wherever possible, use
HTML, because I mentioned,

01:43:58.300 --> 01:44:04.060 align:middle line:84%
HTML has accessibility really
built into the specification.

01:44:04.060 --> 01:44:07.930 align:middle line:84%
And it works across all
platforms, all browsers.

01:44:07.930 --> 01:44:10.762 align:middle line:84%
Accessibility is
very well supported.

01:44:10.762 --> 01:44:12.220 align:middle line:84%
There was a question
in the earlier

01:44:12.220 --> 01:44:15.940 align:middle line:90%
session on Word versus PDF.

01:44:15.940 --> 01:44:21.040 align:middle line:84%
With PDF, it is possible
to create an accessible

01:44:21.040 --> 01:44:23.860 align:middle line:84%
PDF that has an underlying
structure that's

01:44:23.860 --> 01:44:26.070 align:middle line:90%
similar to HTML.

01:44:26.070 --> 01:44:27.640 align:middle line:90%
It's called a tagged PDF.

01:44:27.640 --> 01:44:29.710 align:middle line:84%
So your goal if
you distribute PDF

01:44:29.710 --> 01:44:35.840 align:middle line:84%
is a tagged PDF with tags
that are the right tags.

01:44:35.840 --> 01:44:40.600 align:middle line:84%
So the tags have to communicate
heading 1, and heading 2,

01:44:40.600 --> 01:44:43.840 align:middle line:84%
and this is a list,
and this is a table.

01:44:43.840 --> 01:44:46.660 align:middle line:84%
And there needs to be
alt text on images.

01:44:46.660 --> 01:44:51.280 align:middle line:84%
And so having tags and
having the correct tags

01:44:51.280 --> 01:44:54.890 align:middle line:84%
is what it takes to
have an accessible PDF.

01:44:54.890 --> 01:44:58.280 align:middle line:84%
So that's a little
bit challenging.

01:44:58.280 --> 01:45:02.000 align:middle line:84%
It can be difficult
to tag a PDF properly.

01:45:02.000 --> 01:45:05.960 align:middle line:84%
But also, it's important to
know that tagged PDF is only

01:45:05.960 --> 01:45:07.820 align:middle line:90%
supported in Windows.

01:45:07.820 --> 01:45:11.090 align:middle line:84%
So Windows screen
readers support it.

01:45:11.090 --> 01:45:13.880 align:middle line:84%
It's not supported on a
Mac, and so it's never

01:45:13.880 --> 01:45:20.350 align:middle line:84%
going to be as good as HTML, no
matter how hard you work at it.

01:45:20.350 --> 01:45:24.940 align:middle line:84%
Whether Word is better
depends a lot on the content.

01:45:24.940 --> 01:45:28.750 align:middle line:84%
Word is probably better
for cross-platform,

01:45:28.750 --> 01:45:32.380 align:middle line:84%
so it's more likely to be
accessible in Mac in addition

01:45:32.380 --> 01:45:33.430 align:middle line:90%
to Windows.

01:45:33.430 --> 01:45:34.630 align:middle line:90%
You can do headings.

01:45:34.630 --> 01:45:36.370 align:middle line:90%
You can do alt text on images.

01:45:36.370 --> 01:45:39.730 align:middle line:84%
You can do accessible
math and Word documents,

01:45:39.730 --> 01:45:42.370 align:middle line:90%
whereas you can't in PDF.

01:45:42.370 --> 01:45:47.430 align:middle line:84%
So it really depends a lot
on the nature of your content

01:45:47.430 --> 01:45:49.410 align:middle line:84%
whether Word is going
to be better than PDF.

01:45:49.410 --> 01:45:55.370 align:middle line:84%
But HTML is better than both,
so wherever possible, use HTML.

01:45:55.370 --> 01:45:59.470 align:middle line:84%
The keys-- headings, I
stressed that many times.

01:45:59.470 --> 01:46:03.340 align:middle line:84%
And that is probably the most
important accessibility issue

01:46:03.340 --> 01:46:05.980 align:middle line:90%
in both websites and documents.

01:46:05.980 --> 01:46:08.085 align:middle line:84%
Also, add meaningful
alt text to images.

01:46:08.085 --> 01:46:09.460 align:middle line:84%
There's another
slide where we're

01:46:09.460 --> 01:46:11.918 align:middle line:84%
going to talk about alt text,
and I'll use that opportunity

01:46:11.918 --> 01:46:14.590 align:middle line:84%
to answer the question
about long descriptions

01:46:14.590 --> 01:46:15.610 align:middle line:90%
for complex images.

01:46:15.610 --> 01:46:18.140 align:middle line:90%


01:46:18.140 --> 01:46:21.050 align:middle line:84%
And just about every
authoring format

01:46:21.050 --> 01:46:22.955 align:middle line:90%
has an accessibility checker.

01:46:22.955 --> 01:46:24.830 align:middle line:84%
So as you're creating
your digital documents,

01:46:24.830 --> 01:46:27.140 align:middle line:84%
this is a really
good place to start.

01:46:27.140 --> 01:46:31.350 align:middle line:84%
If you're in Word or if
you're creating a PowerPoint,

01:46:31.350 --> 01:46:36.620 align:middle line:84%
then use the Microsoft Office
built-in accessibility checker,

01:46:36.620 --> 01:46:38.550 align:middle line:90%
and it will--

01:46:38.550 --> 01:46:40.730 align:middle line:84%
there's some limits to
what accessibility checkers

01:46:40.730 --> 01:46:44.020 align:middle line:90%
can automatically identify.

01:46:44.020 --> 01:46:46.160 align:middle line:84%
But this can go a
long way to help

01:46:46.160 --> 01:46:48.350 align:middle line:84%
you understand
what the issues are

01:46:48.350 --> 01:46:51.830 align:middle line:84%
and guide you through
how to fix those issues.

01:46:51.830 --> 01:46:54.350 align:middle line:84%
If you have a PDF,
including a PDF

01:46:54.350 --> 01:46:57.450 align:middle line:84%
that you have acquired
from some other source

01:46:57.450 --> 01:47:00.720 align:middle line:84%
and you don't have the
original source to work with,

01:47:00.720 --> 01:47:04.970 align:middle line:84%
then you can still make that
accessible in Adobe Acrobat.

01:47:04.970 --> 01:47:08.180 align:middle line:84%
You have to have
Adobe Acrobat Pro,

01:47:08.180 --> 01:47:11.060 align:middle line:84%
but it includes an
accessibility checker,

01:47:11.060 --> 01:47:13.490 align:middle line:84%
and it includes a
variety of tools

01:47:13.490 --> 01:47:16.580 align:middle line:84%
that can help you fix the
accessibility problems

01:47:16.580 --> 01:47:17.510 align:middle line:90%
within that document.

01:47:17.510 --> 01:47:20.160 align:middle line:90%


01:47:20.160 --> 01:47:23.310 align:middle line:84%
Once again, another tip
is to just learn more

01:47:23.310 --> 01:47:24.540 align:middle line:90%
about document accessibility.

01:47:24.540 --> 01:47:26.990 align:middle line:90%
There's a lot to know.

01:47:26.990 --> 01:47:29.970 align:middle line:84%
And a good starting
point is our own website,

01:47:29.970 --> 01:47:33.990 align:middle line:90%
uw.edu/accessibility/documents.

01:47:33.990 --> 01:47:36.510 align:middle line:84%
So you can see
there's a trend here.

01:47:36.510 --> 01:47:41.740 align:middle line:84%
Just add slash something
to the end of our main URL,

01:47:41.740 --> 01:47:45.840 align:middle line:84%
and that will get you
to documents or to tools

01:47:45.840 --> 01:47:48.640 align:middle line:90%
or various other things.

01:47:48.640 --> 01:47:55.490 align:middle line:84%
So I wanted to give you just
a couple examples that apply

01:47:55.490 --> 01:47:58.230 align:middle line:90%
to documents specifically.

01:47:58.230 --> 01:47:59.370 align:middle line:90%
Here we are in Word.

01:47:59.370 --> 01:48:01.765 align:middle line:84%
And I chose the Constitution
of the United States

01:48:01.765 --> 01:48:03.390 align:middle line:84%
because it has a
really good structure,

01:48:03.390 --> 01:48:05.280 align:middle line:84%
and so what I really
want to communicate here

01:48:05.280 --> 01:48:08.280 align:middle line:90%
was heading structure.

01:48:08.280 --> 01:48:13.710 align:middle line:84%
And the structure of the pieces
that I've excerpted here--

01:48:13.710 --> 01:48:15.570 align:middle line:84%
Constitution of United
States, first of all,

01:48:15.570 --> 01:48:16.890 align:middle line:90%
is the main heading.

01:48:16.890 --> 01:48:19.100 align:middle line:84%
That's the title of
the entire document,

01:48:19.100 --> 01:48:22.200 align:middle line:90%
so that would be the heading 1.

01:48:22.200 --> 01:48:25.770 align:middle line:84%
And in HTML, you
would use an H1 tag.

01:48:25.770 --> 01:48:29.970 align:middle line:84%
In PDF, with a tagged
PDF, you would want

01:48:29.970 --> 01:48:33.480 align:middle line:90%
an H1 tag, similar to HTML.

01:48:33.480 --> 01:48:36.000 align:middle line:90%
In word, you use styles.

01:48:36.000 --> 01:48:40.890 align:middle line:84%
And so here I am in Microsoft
Word on the Home tab.

01:48:40.890 --> 01:48:43.350 align:middle line:84%
And I've got a bunch
of styles visible.

01:48:43.350 --> 01:48:48.780 align:middle line:84%
So I can choose the style
for the particular text

01:48:48.780 --> 01:48:52.350 align:middle line:90%
that I have highlighted.

01:48:52.350 --> 01:48:54.810 align:middle line:84%
And Word's styles
include headings,

01:48:54.810 --> 01:48:57.540 align:middle line:84%
so heading 1,
heading 2, heading 3.

01:48:57.540 --> 01:49:01.530 align:middle line:84%
It's really important to
use those headings styles

01:49:01.530 --> 01:49:03.690 align:middle line:90%
for your headings.

01:49:03.690 --> 01:49:06.270 align:middle line:84%
So Constitution of the United
States in this document

01:49:06.270 --> 01:49:07.545 align:middle line:90%
is heading 1.

01:49:07.545 --> 01:49:11.610 align:middle line:84%
The Preamble is a
secondary heading

01:49:11.610 --> 01:49:14.190 align:middle line:90%
underneath that main heading.

01:49:14.190 --> 01:49:16.740 align:middle line:84%
And later, Amendments
to the Constitution

01:49:16.740 --> 01:49:20.650 align:middle line:90%
is also a heading level 2.

01:49:20.650 --> 01:49:23.880 align:middle line:84%
So as you're using headings,
it's really important

01:49:23.880 --> 01:49:26.460 align:middle line:90%
to think about the outline.

01:49:26.460 --> 01:49:28.410 align:middle line:84%
Your goal with headings
is to communicate

01:49:28.410 --> 01:49:32.850 align:middle line:84%
the outline of the document so
that the person who can't see

01:49:32.850 --> 01:49:34.080 align:middle line:90%
gets that structure.

01:49:34.080 --> 01:49:37.930 align:middle line:84%
They understand that this is
a subheading underneath this.

01:49:37.930 --> 01:49:41.550 align:middle line:84%
And when you get down into
Article 1 or the First

01:49:41.550 --> 01:49:44.460 align:middle line:84%
Amendment, that's
a heading level 3,

01:49:44.460 --> 01:49:48.340 align:middle line:84%
which is a subheading under
Amendments to the Constitution.

01:49:48.340 --> 01:49:51.960 align:middle line:84%
And so really important
to preserve the outline.

01:49:51.960 --> 01:49:55.560 align:middle line:84%
And it also has advantages
for the author because you

01:49:55.560 --> 01:49:56.820 align:middle line:90%
can change the style.

01:49:56.820 --> 01:49:58.320 align:middle line:84%
If you've got a
bunch of heading 2s,

01:49:58.320 --> 01:50:00.390 align:middle line:84%
a bunch of heading
3s in your document,

01:50:00.390 --> 01:50:02.640 align:middle line:84%
then all you have to do is
right-click on that Style

01:50:02.640 --> 01:50:05.700 align:middle line:84%
button, and you can
change the appearance.

01:50:05.700 --> 01:50:09.240 align:middle line:84%
So you're not attached to the
way it looks, and you shouldn't

01:50:09.240 --> 01:50:11.730 align:middle line:84%
make your decisions
about headings based

01:50:11.730 --> 01:50:14.250 align:middle line:84%
on the visual
representation because you

01:50:14.250 --> 01:50:16.000 align:middle line:90%
can very easily change that.

01:50:16.000 --> 01:50:20.220 align:middle line:84%
And when you change it, it
applies to every heading 3

01:50:20.220 --> 01:50:22.800 align:middle line:84%
in the entire document,
which is really, really

01:50:22.800 --> 01:50:24.300 align:middle line:90%
handy for you as an author.

01:50:24.300 --> 01:50:28.040 align:middle line:90%


01:50:28.040 --> 01:50:32.450 align:middle line:84%
For adding alt text
to images, in Word--

01:50:32.450 --> 01:50:34.640 align:middle line:84%
you can now-- the latest
version of Word, actually,

01:50:34.640 --> 01:50:36.660 align:middle line:90%
this happens automatically.

01:50:36.660 --> 01:50:40.130 align:middle line:84%
So this is where we've got
automatic captioning that's

01:50:40.130 --> 01:50:40.880 align:middle line:90%
happening now.

01:50:40.880 --> 01:50:43.280 align:middle line:90%
We've got automatic alt text.

01:50:43.280 --> 01:50:45.940 align:middle line:90%
But you always need to check.

01:50:45.940 --> 01:50:47.810 align:middle line:84%
Whenever there's
automatic captioning,

01:50:47.810 --> 01:50:50.420 align:middle line:84%
you need to check that
because it makes mistakes.

01:50:50.420 --> 01:50:53.460 align:middle line:84%
And you need to check
automatic alt text.

01:50:53.460 --> 01:50:56.970 align:middle line:84%
You always need to add
alt text to your images.

01:50:56.970 --> 01:51:00.710 align:middle line:84%
But you always need to
check if that alt text is

01:51:00.710 --> 01:51:02.900 align:middle line:90%
being added automatically.

01:51:02.900 --> 01:51:04.490 align:middle line:84%
So I added an
image to a document

01:51:04.490 --> 01:51:08.620 align:middle line:84%
here in Word that is
professor Richard Ladner.

01:51:08.620 --> 01:51:10.580 align:middle line:84%
Some of you may know him
as a computer science

01:51:10.580 --> 01:51:14.810 align:middle line:84%
professor-- very active in the
National Science Foundation.

01:51:14.810 --> 01:51:16.790 align:middle line:84%
And he's shown
here communicating

01:51:16.790 --> 01:51:19.910 align:middle line:84%
with a group of deaf students,
and they're all sitting

01:51:19.910 --> 01:51:22.410 align:middle line:90%
in a group using sign language.

01:51:22.410 --> 01:51:27.860 align:middle line:84%
And the automatic alt
text that Word provided

01:51:27.860 --> 01:51:31.960 align:middle line:84%
was "a group of people
looking at a computer," which

01:51:31.960 --> 01:51:33.100 align:middle line:90%
really does not--

01:51:33.100 --> 01:51:36.550 align:middle line:84%
it's actually not bad as
automatic alt text goes,

01:51:36.550 --> 01:51:38.050 align:middle line:90%
but that's not happening here.

01:51:38.050 --> 01:51:39.730 align:middle line:84%
They're not looking
at the computer.

01:51:39.730 --> 01:51:41.440 align:middle line:90%
There are computers present.

01:51:41.440 --> 01:51:44.680 align:middle line:84%
But they are very clearly
looking at each other.

01:51:44.680 --> 01:51:47.320 align:middle line:84%
They're communicating
by sign language.

01:51:47.320 --> 01:51:52.220 align:middle line:84%
And it seems to be a
very lively conversation.

01:51:52.220 --> 01:51:56.920 align:middle line:84%
And so all of that needs to be
communicated in this alt text.

01:51:56.920 --> 01:52:02.440 align:middle line:84%
And there's some key
information that's missing.

01:52:02.440 --> 01:52:07.140 align:middle line:84%
So your alt text is going
to vary based on context.

01:52:07.140 --> 01:52:09.510 align:middle line:84%
And you always have
to ask what is it

01:52:09.510 --> 01:52:13.770 align:middle line:84%
that I'm trying to communicate
here by providing this image?

01:52:13.770 --> 01:52:17.670 align:middle line:84%
And what are the
important takeaways?

01:52:17.670 --> 01:52:20.280 align:middle line:84%
The question came up
earlier about graphs

01:52:20.280 --> 01:52:27.150 align:middle line:84%
and charts and images that have
a lot of complex information.

01:52:27.150 --> 01:52:32.100 align:middle line:84%
Alt text really is not designed
for that kind of description.

01:52:32.100 --> 01:52:35.030 align:middle line:84%
It's designed for
short and sweet.

01:52:35.030 --> 01:52:37.310 align:middle line:84%
So in an academic
journal, for example, you

01:52:37.310 --> 01:52:42.590 align:middle line:84%
might have figure
1 with a caption,

01:52:42.590 --> 01:52:45.690 align:middle line:84%
and then you've got
a complex image.

01:52:45.690 --> 01:52:50.880 align:middle line:84%
The alt text would be a
place to just say figure 1,

01:52:50.880 --> 01:52:55.290 align:middle line:84%
and then say something like
description provided elsewhere,

01:52:55.290 --> 01:53:00.300 align:middle line:84%
and reference where the person
can find the description.

01:53:00.300 --> 01:53:03.150 align:middle line:84%
There have been
various techniques,

01:53:03.150 --> 01:53:07.050 align:middle line:84%
depending on whether it's on
a website or a PDF document

01:53:07.050 --> 01:53:09.150 align:middle line:84%
or a Word document,
different techniques

01:53:09.150 --> 01:53:11.130 align:middle line:84%
for providing a short
description, which

01:53:11.130 --> 01:53:14.700 align:middle line:84%
is alt text, versus
a long description.

01:53:14.700 --> 01:53:16.530 align:middle line:84%
So those are kept
separate, and they're

01:53:16.530 --> 01:53:18.720 align:middle line:90%
coded in different ways.

01:53:18.720 --> 01:53:22.230 align:middle line:84%
But the standard
recommendation these days

01:53:22.230 --> 01:53:26.580 align:middle line:84%
is wherever possible to
provide a communication

01:53:26.580 --> 01:53:32.580 align:middle line:84%
of the key points of the graph
or the chart in the text.

01:53:32.580 --> 01:53:37.140 align:middle line:84%
So not everybody processes
the visual information,

01:53:37.140 --> 01:53:39.090 align:middle line:84%
processes graphs
and charts well.

01:53:39.090 --> 01:53:42.290 align:middle line:84%
Even people who are
sighted don't necessarily--

01:53:42.290 --> 01:53:44.040 align:middle line:84%
if they look at a flow
chart, for example,

01:53:44.040 --> 01:53:45.660 align:middle line:84%
they can't necessarily
track what's

01:53:45.660 --> 01:53:47.920 align:middle line:90%
happening in the flow chart.

01:53:47.920 --> 01:53:52.470 align:middle line:84%
So having a text description
in the body of the article

01:53:52.470 --> 01:53:56.250 align:middle line:84%
or the piece of content, having
that text description there

01:53:56.250 --> 01:54:00.140 align:middle line:84%
for everybody to benefit from,
and then just using the alt

01:54:00.140 --> 01:54:05.220 align:middle line:84%
text to reference that
section of the page

01:54:05.220 --> 01:54:08.100 align:middle line:84%
is a recommended best
practice at this point.

01:54:08.100 --> 01:54:11.570 align:middle line:90%


01:54:11.570 --> 01:54:13.075 align:middle line:90%
So let's move on to video.

01:54:13.075 --> 01:54:16.660 align:middle line:90%


01:54:16.660 --> 01:54:19.520 align:middle line:84%
The first step is to
finish your videos.

01:54:19.520 --> 01:54:22.420 align:middle line:84%
Then, I'm going to argue
a video isn't complete

01:54:22.420 --> 01:54:23.445 align:middle line:90%
until it's captioned.

01:54:23.445 --> 01:54:25.570 align:middle line:84%
And so if you've got a
video, and you've put it up,

01:54:25.570 --> 01:54:27.460 align:middle line:84%
and it doesn't
have any captions,

01:54:27.460 --> 01:54:32.650 align:middle line:84%
then people who
can't hear it, maybe

01:54:32.650 --> 01:54:34.720 align:middle line:84%
because they're deaf
and hard of hearing,

01:54:34.720 --> 01:54:37.030 align:middle line:84%
maybe because they have
their sound turned down.

01:54:37.030 --> 01:54:38.560 align:middle line:90%
They're in a noisy environment.

01:54:38.560 --> 01:54:39.930 align:middle line:90%
They can't hear.

01:54:39.930 --> 01:54:41.620 align:middle line:84%
Or they're in a
quiet environment,

01:54:41.620 --> 01:54:43.180 align:middle line:84%
and they can't turn
their volume up,

01:54:43.180 --> 01:54:45.580 align:middle line:84%
and they don't have
their headset with them.

01:54:45.580 --> 01:54:49.300 align:middle line:84%
There are lots of reasons
why you need captions.

01:54:49.300 --> 01:54:52.570 align:middle line:84%
Captions also make
videos searchable.

01:54:52.570 --> 01:54:56.440 align:middle line:84%
And that certainly is
really a handy feature.

01:54:56.440 --> 01:54:59.800 align:middle line:84%
And therefore, if you
don't have captions,

01:54:59.800 --> 01:55:01.540 align:middle line:90%
you're not finished yet.

01:55:01.540 --> 01:55:05.520 align:middle line:84%
It's a necessary part of the
video production process.

01:55:05.520 --> 01:55:09.120 align:middle line:84%
Also, a lot of questions come
up about automatic captions.

01:55:09.120 --> 01:55:10.590 align:middle line:84%
If you upload a
video to YouTube,

01:55:10.590 --> 01:55:13.290 align:middle line:90%
it is automatically captioned.

01:55:13.290 --> 01:55:20.340 align:middle line:84%
If you capture a Zoom, record
a Zoom meeting or Zoom webinar,

01:55:20.340 --> 01:55:22.410 align:middle line:84%
that too can be
automatic caption.

01:55:22.410 --> 01:55:24.600 align:middle line:84%
You have to turn it
on, but that does

01:55:24.600 --> 01:55:26.990 align:middle line:90%
get automatically captioned.

01:55:26.990 --> 01:55:29.820 align:middle line:84%
But automatic captions
are not accurate enough

01:55:29.820 --> 01:55:31.502 align:middle line:90%
to be relied on.

01:55:31.502 --> 01:55:33.960 align:middle line:84%
Even though they're getting
better and better all the time,

01:55:33.960 --> 01:55:36.840 align:middle line:84%
they still make enough
mistakes that a person

01:55:36.840 --> 01:55:42.270 align:middle line:84%
who's depending on them can miss
some really important details.

01:55:42.270 --> 01:55:45.730 align:middle line:84%
Think about the importance
of the word "not."

01:55:45.730 --> 01:55:48.360 align:middle line:84%
It completely
reverses the message.

01:55:48.360 --> 01:55:52.410 align:middle line:84%
And if the automatic
captions miss the word not,

01:55:52.410 --> 01:55:57.130 align:middle line:84%
then you get the wrong idea
from what's being said.

01:55:57.130 --> 01:56:00.870 align:middle line:84%
And so it really is
critical to go in and edit

01:56:00.870 --> 01:56:02.490 align:middle line:90%
those automatic captions.

01:56:02.490 --> 01:56:05.160 align:middle line:84%
And that then can be
a much easier process

01:56:05.160 --> 01:56:07.230 align:middle line:84%
than captioning from
scratch, depending

01:56:07.230 --> 01:56:09.120 align:middle line:90%
on the quality of the original.

01:56:09.120 --> 01:56:14.790 align:middle line:84%
But before you publish,
edit those captions,

01:56:14.790 --> 01:56:17.040 align:middle line:84%
either in the YouTube
caption editor

01:56:17.040 --> 01:56:18.490 align:middle line:90%
or in the Zoom caption editor.

01:56:18.490 --> 01:56:24.010 align:middle line:90%
Both tools provide that service.

01:56:24.010 --> 01:56:26.790 align:middle line:84%
And then, also, I mentioned
earlier audio description.

01:56:26.790 --> 01:56:27.780 align:middle line:90%
Some videos need it.

01:56:27.780 --> 01:56:29.010 align:middle line:90%
Some don't.

01:56:29.010 --> 01:56:32.610 align:middle line:84%
But it's important to ask as you
are for producing or providing

01:56:32.610 --> 01:56:35.430 align:middle line:84%
a video, is the
important content

01:56:35.430 --> 01:56:38.210 align:middle line:84%
of this video clear
through audio alone?

01:56:38.210 --> 01:56:41.640 align:middle line:84%
If somebody is not looking at
it, do they get the message?

01:56:41.640 --> 01:56:44.485 align:middle line:84%
Do they understand
what's being said,

01:56:44.485 --> 01:56:46.110 align:middle line:84%
and do they understand
who's saying it?

01:56:46.110 --> 01:56:47.760 align:middle line:84%
Because that can
be critical too.

01:56:47.760 --> 01:56:49.470 align:middle line:84%
If you've got an
on screen graphic

01:56:49.470 --> 01:56:55.290 align:middle line:84%
that identifies the speaker but
that isn't apparent anywhere

01:56:55.290 --> 01:56:58.200 align:middle line:84%
just by listening to the video,
then that may need to be audio

01:56:58.200 --> 01:57:00.080 align:middle line:90%
described.

01:57:00.080 --> 01:57:02.580 align:middle line:84%
And there are lots of ways for
delivering audio description.

01:57:02.580 --> 01:57:06.300 align:middle line:84%
But probably the easiest way
and the best way at this point

01:57:06.300 --> 01:57:09.630 align:middle line:84%
is to send it out to
somebody that specializes

01:57:09.630 --> 01:57:11.550 align:middle line:90%
in audio description.

01:57:11.550 --> 01:57:15.120 align:middle line:84%
And there are a number
of vendors in this space.

01:57:15.120 --> 01:57:18.780 align:middle line:84%
They can return to
you a separate video

01:57:18.780 --> 01:57:20.760 align:middle line:90%
that has audio description.

01:57:20.760 --> 01:57:23.580 align:middle line:84%
Then you've got a version
with description and a version

01:57:23.580 --> 01:57:26.530 align:middle line:84%
without, and you
link to both of them.

01:57:26.530 --> 01:57:29.410 align:middle line:84%
So wherever you provide
the original version,

01:57:29.410 --> 01:57:33.240 align:middle line:84%
you can say also available
with audio description and link

01:57:33.240 --> 01:57:33.750 align:middle line:90%
to that.

01:57:33.750 --> 01:57:37.520 align:middle line:90%


01:57:37.520 --> 01:57:40.130 align:middle line:84%
Once again, you can learn
more about video accessibility

01:57:40.130 --> 01:57:41.270 align:middle line:90%
by going to--

01:57:41.270 --> 01:57:42.770 align:middle line:84%
you probably could
have guessed it--

01:57:42.770 --> 01:57:51.660 align:middle line:90%
uw.edu/accessibility/videos.

01:57:51.660 --> 01:57:54.120 align:middle line:84%
And then, here's just a
screenshot of adding captions

01:57:54.120 --> 01:57:55.770 align:middle line:90%
to videos on YouTube.

01:57:55.770 --> 01:58:00.240 align:middle line:84%
If you could find your way
here to the subtitle and closed

01:58:00.240 --> 01:58:03.870 align:middle line:84%
caption manager, then
it's just a matter

01:58:03.870 --> 01:58:06.330 align:middle line:90%
of following the prompts.

01:58:06.330 --> 01:58:09.615 align:middle line:84%
In this case, you would click
on the Add New Subtitles,

01:58:09.615 --> 01:58:11.240 align:middle line:84%
and it would prompt
you for a language.

01:58:11.240 --> 01:58:16.260 align:middle line:84%
And you select the language,
and then you can upload a file.

01:58:16.260 --> 01:58:19.010 align:middle line:84%
There are various
ways that you can

01:58:19.010 --> 01:58:21.750 align:middle line:90%
capture a video within YouTube.

01:58:21.750 --> 01:58:24.780 align:middle line:84%
And YouTube's
captioning features

01:58:24.780 --> 01:58:25.950 align:middle line:90%
are really well documented.

01:58:25.950 --> 01:58:27.990 align:middle line:84%
So you could find
that on our website,

01:58:27.990 --> 01:58:34.560 align:middle line:84%
as well as on the
YouTube help docs.

01:58:34.560 --> 01:58:40.510 align:middle line:84%
So vendor products-- always ask
the vendor about accessibility.

01:58:40.510 --> 01:58:43.170 align:middle line:84%
So as you're shopping
for a piece of technology

01:58:43.170 --> 01:58:47.100 align:middle line:84%
that you are going to deploy
now, as you're teaching online,

01:58:47.100 --> 01:58:49.920 align:middle line:84%
or you're moving
conferences to online,

01:58:49.920 --> 01:58:52.620 align:middle line:84%
or whatever it is
that you're doing,

01:58:52.620 --> 01:58:57.180 align:middle line:84%
and you need some sort of tool
to support that, then you've

01:58:57.180 --> 01:58:59.970 align:middle line:84%
got to ask the vendor
about accessibility.

01:58:59.970 --> 01:59:03.590 align:middle line:84%
If they don't hear
this from all of us--

01:59:03.590 --> 01:59:07.040 align:middle line:84%
there are 112 people
in the meeting now.

01:59:07.040 --> 01:59:10.170 align:middle line:84%
If every one of us asks
about accessibility,

01:59:10.170 --> 01:59:12.600 align:middle line:84%
then vendors are going
to get the message

01:59:12.600 --> 01:59:15.507 align:middle line:84%
that, wow, my
target market really

01:59:15.507 --> 01:59:16.590 align:middle line:90%
cares about accessibility.

01:59:16.590 --> 01:59:18.480 align:middle line:84%
We've got to take
this seriously.

01:59:18.480 --> 01:59:20.640 align:middle line:84%
Otherwise, if we
don't ask, then they

01:59:20.640 --> 01:59:23.290 align:middle line:90%
don't think it's important.

01:59:23.290 --> 01:59:28.110 align:middle line:84%
And so the question is
not are you accessible

01:59:28.110 --> 01:59:32.520 align:middle line:84%
or is your product
accessible, but how

01:59:32.520 --> 01:59:34.790 align:middle line:84%
do you know your
products are accessible?

01:59:34.790 --> 01:59:38.220 align:middle line:84%
Or what is your process for
ensuring that your products are

01:59:38.220 --> 01:59:39.120 align:middle line:90%
accessible?

01:59:39.120 --> 01:59:41.280 align:middle line:84%
What sort of testing
have you done?

01:59:41.280 --> 01:59:43.290 align:middle line:90%
What do your engineers know?

01:59:43.290 --> 01:59:45.300 align:middle line:84%
What sort of training
is provided to them

01:59:45.300 --> 01:59:48.450 align:middle line:90%
about accessibility?

01:59:48.450 --> 01:59:50.900 align:middle line:84%
Also, you can request
documentation.

01:59:50.900 --> 01:59:52.920 align:middle line:84%
And you've defined
your specific standard

01:59:52.920 --> 01:59:54.295 align:middle line:84%
that you're trying
to meet, which

01:59:54.295 --> 01:59:57.430 align:middle line:90%
probably is WCAG 2.1 level AA.

01:59:57.430 --> 01:59:59.640 align:middle line:84%
And you can request
documentation

01:59:59.640 --> 02:00:03.240 align:middle line:84%
of how they meet that, and they
should be able to provide it.

02:00:03.240 --> 02:00:07.320 align:middle line:84%
There is a standard form called
a VPAT, the Voluntary Product

02:00:07.320 --> 02:00:10.980 align:middle line:84%
Accessibility Template,
that vendors often

02:00:10.980 --> 02:00:16.170 align:middle line:84%
use to document their level
of accessibility compliance.

02:00:16.170 --> 02:00:18.120 align:middle line:84%
It's important when
you get a VPAT back

02:00:18.120 --> 02:00:20.390 align:middle line:84%
to know that the vendor
is providing this.

02:00:20.390 --> 02:00:21.990 align:middle line:90%
So it's self-report often.

02:00:21.990 --> 02:00:24.300 align:middle line:84%
Sometimes, they have a
third-party accessibility

02:00:24.300 --> 02:00:26.580 align:middle line:84%
consultant fill it out
for them, and that's

02:00:26.580 --> 02:00:29.430 align:middle line:84%
going to be more
trustworthy, more credible.

02:00:29.430 --> 02:00:32.140 align:middle line:84%
But if they have filled
it out themselves,

02:00:32.140 --> 02:00:34.530 align:middle line:84%
then you can't
necessarily trust it,

02:00:34.530 --> 02:00:37.450 align:middle line:84%
not because they're
dishonest necessarily,

02:00:37.450 --> 02:00:41.490 align:middle line:84%
but because they may not have
the accessibility expertise

02:00:41.490 --> 02:00:42.860 align:middle line:90%
to fill it out on their own.

02:00:42.860 --> 02:00:45.390 align:middle line:84%
They need somebody
who really understands

02:00:45.390 --> 02:00:48.840 align:middle line:84%
accessibility to do an honest
and thorough assessment

02:00:48.840 --> 02:00:50.410 align:middle line:90%
of their product.

02:00:50.410 --> 02:00:54.450 align:middle line:84%
So given that, VPATs are
a conversation starter,

02:00:54.450 --> 02:00:57.480 align:middle line:84%
not the final word on whether
a product or service is

02:00:57.480 --> 02:00:58.240 align:middle line:90%
accessible.

02:00:58.240 --> 02:01:00.600 align:middle line:84%
So you look at the
VPAT, and you try

02:01:00.600 --> 02:01:03.150 align:middle line:84%
to come up with questions
based on what you're seeing.

02:01:03.150 --> 02:01:05.940 align:middle line:84%
What do you know about
whether this product can

02:01:05.940 --> 02:01:09.510 align:middle line:84%
be used by somebody who
is using a screen reader,

02:01:09.510 --> 02:01:11.760 align:middle line:84%
or somebody who
can't use a mouse,

02:01:11.760 --> 02:01:15.060 align:middle line:84%
or somebody who's
using speech input?

02:01:15.060 --> 02:01:18.010 align:middle line:84%
And if the VPAT doesn't
give you that information,

02:01:18.010 --> 02:01:20.220 align:middle line:84%
doesn't give you a
thorough understanding

02:01:20.220 --> 02:01:21.900 align:middle line:84%
of what sort of
barriers this product

02:01:21.900 --> 02:01:26.280 align:middle line:84%
is going to create, if any, then
you need to ask those follow-up

02:01:26.280 --> 02:01:28.620 align:middle line:90%
questions.

02:01:28.620 --> 02:01:31.080 align:middle line:84%
Also, you need to include
accessibility requirements

02:01:31.080 --> 02:01:32.710 align:middle line:90%
in the contract.

02:01:32.710 --> 02:01:36.930 align:middle line:84%
So if they are not accessible,
they need to improve,

02:01:36.930 --> 02:01:39.630 align:middle line:84%
and you need to
agree upon a roadmap

02:01:39.630 --> 02:01:43.200 align:middle line:84%
whereby they are working
toward better accessibility,

02:01:43.200 --> 02:01:48.720 align:middle line:84%
and there is some
guarantee in that it's

02:01:48.720 --> 02:01:50.820 align:middle line:84%
written into the
contract, and they've

02:01:50.820 --> 02:01:55.140 align:middle line:84%
got a timetable where you're
expecting them to meet

02:01:55.140 --> 02:01:58.090 align:middle line:90%
accessibility guidelines.

02:01:58.090 --> 02:02:01.210 align:middle line:84%
We've got all this spelled
out in our own accessibility

02:02:01.210 --> 02:02:02.740 align:middle line:90%
and procurement page.

02:02:02.740 --> 02:02:04.965 align:middle line:84%
And so you can go
to uw.edu/accessibi

02:02:04.965 --> 02:02:06.280 align:middle line:90%
lity/procurement.

02:02:06.280 --> 02:02:10.200 align:middle line:90%


02:02:10.200 --> 02:02:11.470 align:middle line:90%
So we're getting near the end.

02:02:11.470 --> 02:02:15.760 align:middle line:84%
I do want to do a plug for
another learning opportunity.

02:02:15.760 --> 02:02:19.930 align:middle line:84%
And this is mostly
for web developers.

02:02:19.930 --> 02:02:22.460 align:middle line:84%
In fact, entirely, this is
designed for web developers.

02:02:22.460 --> 02:02:23.920 align:middle line:84%
And if you're not
a web developer

02:02:23.920 --> 02:02:25.750 align:middle line:84%
but you know web
developers, then

02:02:25.750 --> 02:02:28.070 align:middle line:90%
please encourage them to attend.

02:02:28.070 --> 02:02:31.270 align:middle line:84%
HighEdWeb, which
is the association

02:02:31.270 --> 02:02:35.440 align:middle line:84%
for higher education web
developers and designers,

02:02:35.440 --> 02:02:39.220 align:middle line:84%
they're hosting their first
ever accessibility summit.

02:02:39.220 --> 02:02:42.710 align:middle line:84%
It was going to be
face-to-face in St. Louis,

02:02:42.710 --> 02:02:44.860 align:middle line:90%
but it's online now.

02:02:44.860 --> 02:02:50.320 align:middle line:84%
It's next week, the same
day next week, and only $25

02:02:50.320 --> 02:02:51.040 align:middle line:90%
to register.

02:02:51.040 --> 02:02:53.830 align:middle line:84%
And with that, you
get 12 sessions, or 6

02:02:53.830 --> 02:02:56.440 align:middle line:84%
because they're
concurrent, but really good

02:02:56.440 --> 02:03:00.230 align:middle line:84%
sessions that is a deeper
dive into accessibility.

02:03:00.230 --> 02:03:04.000 align:middle line:84%
And so I mentioned very briefly
accessible web navigation menus

02:03:04.000 --> 02:03:06.250 align:middle line:90%
as I was looking at websites.

02:03:06.250 --> 02:03:10.360 align:middle line:84%
That's a topic that I'm going
to be exploring in great depth,

02:03:10.360 --> 02:03:12.940 align:middle line:84%
looking at code and really
exploring what the best

02:03:12.940 --> 02:03:16.810 align:middle line:84%
practices in a
session, along with 11

02:03:16.810 --> 02:03:18.760 align:middle line:90%
other really good sessions.

02:03:18.760 --> 02:03:22.200 align:middle line:84%
So you find out about that at
a11ysummit20.highedweb.org.

02:03:22.200 --> 02:03:25.660 align:middle line:90%


02:03:25.660 --> 02:03:28.630 align:middle line:84%
So I apologize I didn't leave
much time for questions.

02:03:28.630 --> 02:03:32.530 align:middle line:84%
But Brianna are there
some that I can answer

02:03:32.530 --> 02:03:33.950 align:middle line:90%
in a short period of time?

02:03:33.950 --> 02:03:35.180 align:middle line:84%
BRIANNA BLASER: We do
have a lot of questions.

02:03:35.180 --> 02:03:37.222 align:middle line:84%
And I do want to leave a
little time for a break.

02:03:37.222 --> 02:03:40.870 align:middle line:84%
But there was some questions
about the accessibility

02:03:40.870 --> 02:03:46.070 align:middle line:84%
of various conferencing meetings
software other than Zoom--

02:03:46.070 --> 02:03:49.790 align:middle line:84%
Google Meet, GoToMeeting,
Adobe Connect, WebEx,

02:03:49.790 --> 02:03:52.830 align:middle line:90%
Microsoft Teams.

02:03:52.830 --> 02:03:55.490 align:middle line:84%
TERRILL THOMPSON: Yeah, this
question comes up a lot.

02:03:55.490 --> 02:03:58.310 align:middle line:84%
And we've been focusing
primarily on Zoom,

02:03:58.310 --> 02:04:00.530 align:middle line:84%
so that's the one I'm
most familiar with.

02:04:00.530 --> 02:04:02.450 align:middle line:84%
But I've seen a lot
of conversations

02:04:02.450 --> 02:04:05.930 align:middle line:84%
among other institutions who
are asking the same question.

02:04:05.930 --> 02:04:09.320 align:middle line:84%
And Zoom really seems to
be the frontrunner when

02:04:09.320 --> 02:04:13.130 align:middle line:84%
it comes to keyboard
accessibility

02:04:13.130 --> 02:04:15.080 align:middle line:90%
and screen reader accessibility.

02:04:15.080 --> 02:04:18.440 align:middle line:84%
So they really
have embraced that

02:04:18.440 --> 02:04:22.760 align:middle line:84%
and have rocketed above the
competition in that regard.

02:04:22.760 --> 02:04:26.765 align:middle line:84%
I think Microsoft is taking it
pretty seriously too, so Teams.

02:04:26.765 --> 02:04:28.640 align:middle line:84%
And there's actually--
I don't know, Brianna,

02:04:28.640 --> 02:04:32.010 align:middle line:84%
if you pasted is the
resource from our colleagues

02:04:32.010 --> 02:04:33.010 align:middle line:90%
that we were discussing.

02:04:33.010 --> 02:04:35.240 align:middle line:84%
BRIANNA BLASER: I did,
the one from AccessSIGCHI,

02:04:35.240 --> 02:04:38.375 align:middle line:84%
and somebody else
shared one from NAD,

02:04:38.375 --> 02:04:39.750 align:middle line:84%
National Association
of the Deaf,

02:04:39.750 --> 02:04:42.267 align:middle line:84%
if I got that
abbreviation right.

02:04:42.267 --> 02:04:44.600 align:middle line:84%
TERRILL THOMPSON: Yeah, so I
would consult both of those

02:04:44.600 --> 02:04:46.808 align:middle line:84%
because they're going to
come from slightly different

02:04:46.808 --> 02:04:48.740 align:middle line:90%
perspectives, probably.

02:04:48.740 --> 02:04:51.680 align:middle line:84%
And you do, unfortunately,
have that reality where you're

02:04:51.680 --> 02:04:54.530 align:middle line:84%
sometimes balancing
screen reader

02:04:54.530 --> 02:04:59.730 align:middle line:84%
accessibility for deaf and
hard of hearing accessibility.

02:04:59.730 --> 02:05:02.630 align:middle line:84%
I don't want to endorse
Zoom necessarily,

02:05:02.630 --> 02:05:05.450 align:middle line:84%
but we've been collaborating
very closely with them

02:05:05.450 --> 02:05:06.210 align:middle line:90%
for years.

02:05:06.210 --> 02:05:09.380 align:middle line:84%
And like I said, they
are now paying attention

02:05:09.380 --> 02:05:11.810 align:middle line:84%
to deaf and hard
of hearing issues

02:05:11.810 --> 02:05:14.600 align:middle line:84%
more than they had
been in the past.

02:05:14.600 --> 02:05:17.360 align:middle line:84%
And so I feel pretty
comfortable with the path

02:05:17.360 --> 02:05:19.250 align:middle line:90%
that we're on with them.

02:05:19.250 --> 02:05:21.800 align:middle line:84%
BRIANNA BLASER: There is also
a discussion about captioning

02:05:21.800 --> 02:05:24.920 align:middle line:84%
and the amount of labor
involved in editing

02:05:24.920 --> 02:05:26.960 align:middle line:84%
captioning versus the
cost of sending it out.

02:05:26.960 --> 02:05:29.127 align:middle line:84%
Maybe you can talk a little
bit about the strategies

02:05:29.127 --> 02:05:31.752 align:middle line:84%
that UW has been
using in that regard.

02:05:31.752 --> 02:05:33.710 align:middle line:84%
TERRILL THOMPSON: Yeah,
the state of Washington

02:05:33.710 --> 02:05:37.610 align:middle line:84%
has a contract with a
third-party caption provider,

02:05:37.610 --> 02:05:39.880 align:middle line:90%
so we've got a pretty good rate.

02:05:39.880 --> 02:05:43.250 align:middle line:84%
And so it may, in fact,
be easier and more cost

02:05:43.250 --> 02:05:48.290 align:middle line:84%
effective just to send out
to a captioning vendor.

02:05:48.290 --> 02:05:53.240 align:middle line:84%
And that question
really rests on

02:05:53.240 --> 02:05:56.360 align:middle line:84%
whether you have people
available at the university.

02:05:56.360 --> 02:06:01.190 align:middle line:84%
It could be a student
job to edit captions.

02:06:01.190 --> 02:06:06.200 align:middle line:84%
But also, if the quality is
good of the automatic captions,

02:06:06.200 --> 02:06:11.630 align:middle line:84%
then it can be pretty quick and
easy to go in and edit that.

02:06:11.630 --> 02:06:14.990 align:middle line:84%
And so it really
depends on those things,

02:06:14.990 --> 02:06:16.465 align:middle line:84%
whether it truly
is quick and easy

02:06:16.465 --> 02:06:20.290 align:middle line:84%
and you just have to
fix a few small things

02:06:20.290 --> 02:06:23.907 align:middle line:84%
and whether you have the labor
available to even do that.

02:06:23.907 --> 02:06:24.990 align:middle line:90%
BRIANNA BLASER: Excellent.

02:06:24.990 --> 02:06:29.100 align:middle line:84%
One last question, and then
we'll give everybody a break.

02:06:29.100 --> 02:06:31.410 align:middle line:84%
Can you talk a little bit
about accessibility pitfalls

02:06:31.410 --> 02:06:32.265 align:middle line:90%
within Canvas?

02:06:32.265 --> 02:06:35.220 align:middle line:90%


02:06:35.220 --> 02:06:37.470 align:middle line:84%
TERRILL THOMPSON: Well, I
mentioned the sign language.

02:06:37.470 --> 02:06:40.250 align:middle line:84%
So that really is the biggest--
oh within Canvas, sorry.

02:06:40.250 --> 02:06:42.680 align:middle line:90%
I was on still on Zoom.

02:06:42.680 --> 02:06:45.720 align:middle line:84%
Canvas, actually, that's
another collaboration

02:06:45.720 --> 02:06:48.510 align:middle line:84%
where we have worked
really closely with them.

02:06:48.510 --> 02:06:51.000 align:middle line:84%
And there actually
are 100 institutions,

02:06:51.000 --> 02:06:56.170 align:middle line:84%
close to 100 institutions that
are part of that collaboration.

02:06:56.170 --> 02:07:00.270 align:middle line:84%
And so they actually
have been very supportive

02:07:00.270 --> 02:07:02.280 align:middle line:84%
of accessibility and
built accessibility

02:07:02.280 --> 02:07:04.550 align:middle line:90%
into their platform.

02:07:04.550 --> 02:07:06.630 align:middle line:84%
The biggest
challenge, though, is

02:07:06.630 --> 02:07:10.590 align:middle line:84%
that even with an accessible
learning management system,

02:07:10.590 --> 02:07:12.810 align:middle line:84%
you can break accessibility
in your course

02:07:12.810 --> 02:07:15.010 align:middle line:84%
by uploading
inaccessible content.

02:07:15.010 --> 02:07:19.950 align:middle line:84%
And so that's where accessible
documents especially

02:07:19.950 --> 02:07:24.160 align:middle line:84%
comes in, that you really
need to pay attention to that.

02:07:24.160 --> 02:07:31.960 align:middle line:84%
And also, if you use
plug-ins, you can

02:07:31.960 --> 02:07:34.620 align:middle line:84%
you can very easily
break accessibility

02:07:34.620 --> 02:07:41.380 align:middle line:84%
by adding an integration or
plug-in that is not accessible.

02:07:41.380 --> 02:07:45.330 align:middle line:90%


02:07:45.330 --> 02:07:47.460 align:middle line:84%
Accessibility is
complex and involves

02:07:47.460 --> 02:07:49.550 align:middle line:90%
a lot of different parts.

02:07:49.550 --> 02:07:54.900 align:middle line:84%
But Canvas as a whole, it
has been pretty accessible.

02:07:54.900 --> 02:07:57.915 align:middle line:84%
Now, that said, they've
just recently got acquired.

02:07:57.915 --> 02:08:00.255 align:middle line:90%


02:08:00.255 --> 02:08:02.130 align:middle line:84%
There's some questions
about their commitment

02:08:02.130 --> 02:08:03.430 align:middle line:90%
to accessibility ongoing.

02:08:03.430 --> 02:08:05.520 align:middle line:84%
But we continue
to be optimistic,

02:08:05.520 --> 02:08:07.470 align:middle line:84%
and we're still
interacting with them

02:08:07.470 --> 02:08:11.190 align:middle line:84%
and hoping to continue having
a positive relationship

02:08:11.190 --> 02:08:14.880 align:middle line:84%
and keeping them on
our side in making sure

02:08:14.880 --> 02:08:17.393 align:middle line:90%
that the platform is accessible.

02:08:17.393 --> 02:08:18.810 align:middle line:84%
BRIANNA BLASER:
Great, and I think

02:08:18.810 --> 02:08:23.220 align:middle line:84%
we should probably end it
there so that we have a chance

02:08:23.220 --> 02:08:23.910 align:middle line:90%
to take a break.

02:08:23.910 --> 02:08:26.760 align:middle line:90%
And we'll be back around 11:20.

02:08:26.760 --> 02:08:29.430 align:middle line:84%
And we'll be talking
about accessibility

02:08:29.430 --> 02:08:31.440 align:middle line:84%
and universal design
of online meetings

02:08:31.440 --> 02:08:35.020 align:middle line:84%
since we're all in so many
online meetings these days.

02:08:35.020 --> 02:08:36.806 align:middle line:84%
So we'll see you all
in a few minutes.

02:08:36.806 --> 02:08:37.973 align:middle line:90%
TERRILL THOMPSON: Excellent.

02:08:37.973 --> 02:08:41.040 align:middle line:84%
And I'll take a look at
chat too and reply via chat

02:08:41.040 --> 02:08:42.970 align:middle line:84%
if there are other
questions that people have.

02:08:42.970 --> 02:08:43.530 align:middle line:90%
BRIANNA BLASER: Oh, great.

02:08:43.530 --> 02:08:44.340 align:middle line:90%
Thanks, Terrill.

02:08:44.340 --> 02:08:45.257 align:middle line:90%
TERRILL THOMPSON: Yep.

02:08:45.257 --> 02:09:04.870 align:middle line:90%


02:09:04.870 --> 02:09:07.600 align:middle line:84%
BRIANNA BLASER: So when you're
preparing for the meeting,

02:09:07.600 --> 02:09:10.630 align:middle line:84%
again, think about the diversity
of your audience with regard

02:09:10.630 --> 02:09:14.128 align:middle line:84%
to some of these characteristics
that we've spoken about.

02:09:14.128 --> 02:09:15.670 align:middle line:84%
But there's some
other things I think

02:09:15.670 --> 02:09:17.320 align:middle line:84%
are important to
think about as well.

02:09:17.320 --> 02:09:19.810 align:middle line:84%
Something that I've
certainly experienced

02:09:19.810 --> 02:09:25.330 align:middle line:84%
in the last few months is in
meeting with various folks

02:09:25.330 --> 02:09:28.120 align:middle line:84%
that may not have high
bandwidth at their homes

02:09:28.120 --> 02:09:29.920 align:middle line:90%
and how to navigate that.

02:09:29.920 --> 02:09:33.580 align:middle line:84%
So at times it means
knowing things like, well,

02:09:33.580 --> 02:09:35.890 align:middle line:84%
if somebody calls
in on the phone line

02:09:35.890 --> 02:09:39.550 align:middle line:84%
versus connects to the
audio via the internet

02:09:39.550 --> 02:09:42.160 align:middle line:84%
that they will have a
more smooth connection.

02:09:42.160 --> 02:09:44.860 align:middle line:84%
Or it might mean that they can't
turn the camera on because they

02:09:44.860 --> 02:09:47.235 align:middle line:84%
don't have high enough bandwidth
at home to support that.

02:09:47.235 --> 02:09:49.455 align:middle line:90%


02:09:49.455 --> 02:09:51.580 align:middle line:84%
One of the things I like
to think about when you're

02:09:51.580 --> 02:09:54.640 align:middle line:84%
thinking about our audience
is that some folks may choose

02:09:54.640 --> 02:09:58.360 align:middle line:84%
not to turn their camera on
for a variety of reasons,

02:09:58.360 --> 02:09:59.680 align:middle line:90%
and I need to be--

02:09:59.680 --> 02:10:03.487 align:middle line:84%
particularly in the context
that we're in right now--

02:10:03.487 --> 02:10:04.570 align:middle line:90%
respectful of that, right?

02:10:04.570 --> 02:10:07.270 align:middle line:84%
So it might be that you
have a chaotic house.

02:10:07.270 --> 02:10:09.557 align:middle line:84%
Your kids are running
around in the background.

02:10:09.557 --> 02:10:11.140 align:middle line:84%
It may be that your
house isn't clean.

02:10:11.140 --> 02:10:13.930 align:middle line:84%
It may be, again,
this bandwidth issue.

02:10:13.930 --> 02:10:16.570 align:middle line:84%
That you may not want
to share that aspect

02:10:16.570 --> 02:10:18.820 align:middle line:84%
of your personal life with
whoever is in this meeting.

02:10:18.820 --> 02:10:22.120 align:middle line:84%
So understanding and
respecting that, I think,

02:10:22.120 --> 02:10:24.070 align:middle line:90%
is important as well.

02:10:24.070 --> 02:10:25.570 align:middle line:84%
When you're preparing
for a meeting,

02:10:25.570 --> 02:10:27.160 align:middle line:84%
you might consider
whether or not

02:10:27.160 --> 02:10:29.410 align:middle line:84%
you're going to
record the meeting.

02:10:29.410 --> 02:10:32.183 align:middle line:84%
There's a variety of
reasons you might record it.

02:10:32.183 --> 02:10:33.600 align:middle line:84%
If you know that
some folks aren't

02:10:33.600 --> 02:10:36.370 align:middle line:84%
going to be able to attend,
that can be helpful.

02:10:36.370 --> 02:10:39.190 align:middle line:84%
But again, whether that's really
going to add something or not

02:10:39.190 --> 02:10:40.845 align:middle line:90%
is a different conversation.

02:10:40.845 --> 02:10:42.970 align:middle line:84%
The other thing that we
like to do in our meetings,

02:10:42.970 --> 02:10:44.890 align:middle line:84%
particularly when we
have a large meeting,

02:10:44.890 --> 02:10:47.770 align:middle line:84%
is designate someone who can
manage the meeting in terms

02:10:47.770 --> 02:10:51.340 align:middle line:84%
of muting and unmuting people,
in terms of checking the chat,

02:10:51.340 --> 02:10:54.430 align:middle line:84%
making sure things are
attended to in there separately

02:10:54.430 --> 02:10:55.840 align:middle line:90%
from the presenter.

02:10:55.840 --> 02:10:59.560 align:middle line:84%
It really divides your attention
to try and follow and attend

02:10:59.560 --> 02:11:03.017 align:middle line:84%
to those different
tasks at the same time.

02:11:03.017 --> 02:11:04.600 align:middle line:84%
I often find if I'm
running a meeting,

02:11:04.600 --> 02:11:07.142 align:middle line:84%
I might also be getting emails
from people during the meeting

02:11:07.142 --> 02:11:08.920 align:middle line:84%
because they can't get
on, so figuring out

02:11:08.920 --> 02:11:11.148 align:middle line:84%
how you can make sure
that folks can attend

02:11:11.148 --> 02:11:12.190 align:middle line:90%
to those separate things.

02:11:12.190 --> 02:11:15.140 align:middle line:90%


02:11:15.140 --> 02:11:17.730 align:middle line:84%
And then, a really important
part of preparation

02:11:17.730 --> 02:11:19.630 align:middle line:84%
is thinking about
accommodations as well.

02:11:19.630 --> 02:11:22.260 align:middle line:84%
So when you have a
meeting, make it clear

02:11:22.260 --> 02:11:25.260 align:middle line:84%
how somebody can
request accommodations.

02:11:25.260 --> 02:11:28.140 align:middle line:84%
And it's also
important to be mindful

02:11:28.140 --> 02:11:30.600 align:middle line:84%
that those needs might differ
from what somebody might need

02:11:30.600 --> 02:11:33.425 align:middle line:90%
in an in-person meeting, right?

02:11:33.425 --> 02:11:34.800 align:middle line:84%
In an in-person
meeting, somebody

02:11:34.800 --> 02:11:36.930 align:middle line:84%
may have less trouble
hearing, but they

02:11:36.930 --> 02:11:42.600 align:middle line:84%
may need captions or
something like that

02:11:42.600 --> 02:11:44.520 align:middle line:90%
during an online meeting.

02:11:44.520 --> 02:11:46.050 align:middle line:84%
So again, you can
encourage folks--

02:11:46.050 --> 02:11:48.955 align:middle line:84%
if you have folks register,
put it on the form.

02:11:48.955 --> 02:11:51.330 align:middle line:84%
Have a blank there where they
can request accommodations.

02:11:51.330 --> 02:11:53.307 align:middle line:90%
Encourage folks to email you.

02:11:53.307 --> 02:11:55.140 align:middle line:84%
Just make sure that
everybody knows how they

02:11:55.140 --> 02:11:57.150 align:middle line:90%
can request accommodations.

02:11:57.150 --> 02:11:59.460 align:middle line:84%
And then, know how to
respond to those requests.

02:11:59.460 --> 02:12:01.620 align:middle line:84%
So I frequently hear from
people with disabilities

02:12:01.620 --> 02:12:05.010 align:middle line:84%
that are attending meetings,
both in-person and virtual,

02:12:05.010 --> 02:12:07.410 align:middle line:84%
that I told them what
accommodations I needed,

02:12:07.410 --> 02:12:09.327 align:middle line:90%
and then I never heard anything.

02:12:09.327 --> 02:12:11.160 align:middle line:84%
So that can be a little
bit anxiety-inducing

02:12:11.160 --> 02:12:12.450 align:middle line:84%
when you're trying to
figure out whether or not

02:12:12.450 --> 02:12:14.770 align:middle line:84%
you're going to really
be able to participate.

02:12:14.770 --> 02:12:18.210 align:middle line:84%
And it certainly doesn't
feel particularly welcoming.

02:12:18.210 --> 02:12:22.320 align:middle line:84%
So again, the things that you
might prepare people for--

02:12:22.320 --> 02:12:25.710 align:middle line:84%
somebody who is
blind or somebody

02:12:25.710 --> 02:12:31.230 align:middle line:84%
who likes text-to-speech might
ask for an electronic version

02:12:31.230 --> 02:12:33.810 align:middle line:84%
of the presentations so
they can access those,

02:12:33.810 --> 02:12:36.870 align:middle line:84%
as well, because their screen
reader won't necessarily

02:12:36.870 --> 02:12:40.290 align:middle line:84%
be able to read things that
you are sharing on your screen.

02:12:40.290 --> 02:12:43.080 align:middle line:84%
That's a fairly easy thing to
figure out how to respond to,

02:12:43.080 --> 02:12:46.020 align:middle line:90%
how to share those with folks.

02:12:46.020 --> 02:12:49.800 align:middle line:84%
You might also get
requests for sign language,

02:12:49.800 --> 02:12:51.900 align:middle line:90%
so knowing how to request that.

02:12:51.900 --> 02:12:54.090 align:middle line:84%
Oftentimes, at
our university, we

02:12:54.090 --> 02:12:56.430 align:middle line:84%
can just request it the
disability services office.

02:12:56.430 --> 02:13:00.130 align:middle line:84%
We tell them what our budget
number is, and they arrange it.

02:13:00.130 --> 02:13:04.607 align:middle line:84%
And again, captioning as well,
knowing how to arrange that.

02:13:04.607 --> 02:13:06.690 align:middle line:84%
Again, we work through
disability services office.

02:13:06.690 --> 02:13:11.220 align:middle line:84%
But there are also companies
you can find online

02:13:11.220 --> 02:13:12.480 align:middle line:90%
that will caption meetings.

02:13:12.480 --> 02:13:16.300 align:middle line:90%


02:13:16.300 --> 02:13:17.900 align:middle line:90%
And this is a question too.

02:13:17.900 --> 02:13:20.660 align:middle line:84%
We've talked a lot about
captioning this morning

02:13:20.660 --> 02:13:22.520 align:middle line:90%
in different contexts.

02:13:22.520 --> 02:13:25.350 align:middle line:84%
And when you're thinking
about a meeting,

02:13:25.350 --> 02:13:30.200 align:middle line:84%
I think it's a fair question
whether captions are serving

02:13:30.200 --> 02:13:32.120 align:middle line:84%
as an accommodation
to provide access

02:13:32.120 --> 02:13:35.090 align:middle line:84%
for somebody who is
deaf or hard of hearing,

02:13:35.090 --> 02:13:38.070 align:middle line:84%
or if they're an example
of universal design.

02:13:38.070 --> 02:13:40.610 align:middle line:84%
So when we run
meetings, we frequently

02:13:40.610 --> 02:13:43.430 align:middle line:84%
caption them proactively
because we anticipate,

02:13:43.430 --> 02:13:46.520 align:middle line:84%
given our interests,
that there may be folks

02:13:46.520 --> 02:13:48.520 align:middle line:90%
who need them in the audience.

02:13:48.520 --> 02:13:50.510 align:middle line:84%
But I also know I
turn on the captions.

02:13:50.510 --> 02:13:52.140 align:middle line:84%
I've had the captions
on all morning.

02:13:52.140 --> 02:13:54.230 align:middle line:84%
I don't have any
difficulty with hearing,

02:13:54.230 --> 02:13:57.253 align:middle line:84%
but it helps me pay
attention better.

02:13:57.253 --> 02:13:58.670 align:middle line:84%
It means that if
I get distracted,

02:13:58.670 --> 02:14:02.480 align:middle line:84%
I can look at the screen and see
what's going on, and again, all

02:14:02.480 --> 02:14:05.450 align:middle line:84%
of those other reasons we've
talked about why somebody

02:14:05.450 --> 02:14:08.608 align:middle line:90%
might want the captions on.

02:14:08.608 --> 02:14:11.150 align:middle line:84%
And then another question, and
then we've heard this as well,

02:14:11.150 --> 02:14:14.150 align:middle line:84%
this morning is whether
the AI-generated captions

02:14:14.150 --> 02:14:17.180 align:middle line:90%
are sufficient.

02:14:17.180 --> 02:14:18.680 align:middle line:84%
And they may be
sufficient if you're

02:14:18.680 --> 02:14:22.610 align:middle line:84%
using captioning as an
example of universal design.

02:14:22.610 --> 02:14:24.290 align:middle line:84%
But as Terrill
pointed out, there

02:14:24.290 --> 02:14:27.560 align:middle line:84%
are frequently lots of
words that are misheard,

02:14:27.560 --> 02:14:29.510 align:middle line:84%
and that can be particularly
true for somebody

02:14:29.510 --> 02:14:33.395 align:middle line:84%
who doesn't have clear speech
or somebody who has an accent.

02:14:33.395 --> 02:14:35.845 align:middle line:90%


02:14:35.845 --> 02:14:37.220 align:middle line:84%
So you really want
to think about

02:14:37.220 --> 02:14:39.095 align:middle line:84%
whether those are going
to be useful to folks

02:14:39.095 --> 02:14:45.040 align:middle line:90%
or a distraction, yeah.

02:14:45.040 --> 02:14:46.660 align:middle line:84%
So again, thinking
about software,

02:14:46.660 --> 02:14:48.670 align:middle line:84%
and Terrill talked
about this a bit,

02:14:48.670 --> 02:14:51.650 align:middle line:84%
is not all meeting
software is accessible.

02:14:51.650 --> 02:14:54.790 align:middle line:84%
So we're talking about the sorts
of things like whether they

02:14:54.790 --> 02:14:58.870 align:middle line:84%
interface with screen readers
or other assistive technology,

02:14:58.870 --> 02:15:00.850 align:middle line:90%
whether they support captioning.

02:15:00.850 --> 02:15:03.280 align:middle line:84%
And then, if you are
the host of the meeting,

02:15:03.280 --> 02:15:04.750 align:middle line:84%
take some time to
become familiar

02:15:04.750 --> 02:15:07.030 align:middle line:84%
with accessibility
features of your software

02:15:07.030 --> 02:15:08.980 align:middle line:84%
so that you can
answer questions folks

02:15:08.980 --> 02:15:12.220 align:middle line:84%
might have if they've never
connected with that software.

02:15:12.220 --> 02:15:15.340 align:middle line:84%
And make sure you share that
information with participants.

02:15:15.340 --> 02:15:17.200 align:middle line:84%
You might share it
generally with everybody,

02:15:17.200 --> 02:15:19.033 align:middle line:84%
or share it with folks
that are specifically

02:15:19.033 --> 02:15:22.960 align:middle line:84%
requesting information
about accommodations.

02:15:22.960 --> 02:15:24.850 align:middle line:84%
As I mentioned in
the chat earlier,

02:15:24.850 --> 02:15:29.350 align:middle line:84%
AccessSIGCHI, which works on
accessibility within SIGCHI,

02:15:29.350 --> 02:15:32.110 align:middle line:84%
which is that Computer Human
Interaction Special Interest

02:15:32.110 --> 02:15:36.220 align:middle line:84%
Group of the Association
for Computing Machinery,

02:15:36.220 --> 02:15:38.170 align:middle line:84%
has a resource that
goes through some

02:15:38.170 --> 02:15:40.420 align:middle line:84%
of the various
commonly used meeting

02:15:40.420 --> 02:15:42.280 align:middle line:84%
softwares and their
accessibility features.

02:15:42.280 --> 02:15:47.180 align:middle line:90%


02:15:47.180 --> 02:15:49.580 align:middle line:84%
And then, again, thinking
about presentation materials.

02:15:49.580 --> 02:15:53.340 align:middle line:84%
So preparing and sharing
an accessible version

02:15:53.340 --> 02:15:56.790 align:middle line:84%
of your agenda ahead of time
lets folks know what to expect.

02:15:56.790 --> 02:16:00.875 align:middle line:84%
That can help folks with
invisible disabilities who

02:16:00.875 --> 02:16:02.250 align:middle line:84%
might benefit from
that structure

02:16:02.250 --> 02:16:03.333 align:middle line:90%
and knowing what's coming.

02:16:03.333 --> 02:16:05.400 align:middle line:84%
It can also help keep
the meeting on track.

02:16:05.400 --> 02:16:07.500 align:middle line:84%
If folks know, well, I
want to talk about XYZ,

02:16:07.500 --> 02:16:09.540 align:middle line:84%
and I see that's on
the agenda later,

02:16:09.540 --> 02:16:12.060 align:middle line:84%
they can save it
until that time.

02:16:12.060 --> 02:16:14.133 align:middle line:84%
And again, sharing
presentation materials

02:16:14.133 --> 02:16:16.050 align:middle line:84%
with folks that might
need accessible versions

02:16:16.050 --> 02:16:18.075 align:middle line:90%
is important.

02:16:18.075 --> 02:16:19.950 align:middle line:84%
The other thing that's
particularly important

02:16:19.950 --> 02:16:23.740 align:middle line:84%
when you're presenting is,
if you're sharing a video,

02:16:23.740 --> 02:16:25.860 align:middle line:84%
make sure you're using
a captioned version

02:16:25.860 --> 02:16:26.610 align:middle line:90%
of that video.

02:16:26.610 --> 02:16:30.677 align:middle line:90%


02:16:30.677 --> 02:16:32.385 align:middle line:84%
If you have a video
you really want show,

02:16:32.385 --> 02:16:35.129 align:middle line:84%
and it's not captioned,
are you really going

02:16:35.129 --> 02:16:36.629 align:middle line:84%
to show that video,
or are you going

02:16:36.629 --> 02:16:39.240 align:middle line:84%
to decide not to show
it because it's not

02:16:39.240 --> 02:16:43.530 align:middle line:84%
going to be the ideal accessible
experience for everybody?

02:16:43.530 --> 02:16:46.020 align:middle line:84%
You might consider providing,
particularly if it's

02:16:46.020 --> 02:16:49.290 align:middle line:84%
highly technical, any of
those materials ahead of time

02:16:49.290 --> 02:16:51.180 align:middle line:84%
to interpreters or
captionists that you're

02:16:51.180 --> 02:16:55.995 align:middle line:84%
using so they know things like
jargon that you might be using.

02:16:55.995 --> 02:16:59.340 align:middle line:90%


02:16:59.340 --> 02:17:00.840 align:middle line:84%
So delivery-- a
few things I like

02:17:00.840 --> 02:17:03.719 align:middle line:84%
to do when I'm
running meetings is I

02:17:03.719 --> 02:17:06.059 align:middle line:84%
look through the names
in the participant list.

02:17:06.059 --> 02:17:08.160 align:middle line:84%
Sometimes folks will
be connecting to Zoom

02:17:08.160 --> 02:17:09.320 align:middle line:90%
for a variety of reasons.

02:17:09.320 --> 02:17:11.905 align:middle line:84%
So I have seen things that
are like nicknames people use

02:17:11.905 --> 02:17:13.530 align:middle line:84%
in a game that they
may not want to use

02:17:13.530 --> 02:17:15.330 align:middle line:90%
in a professional setting.

02:17:15.330 --> 02:17:18.270 align:middle line:84%
I've seen some that
come up as gobbledygook

02:17:18.270 --> 02:17:19.889 align:middle line:90%
for whatever reason.

02:17:19.889 --> 02:17:21.840 align:middle line:84%
I know folks that use
multiple accounts,

02:17:21.840 --> 02:17:24.209 align:middle line:84%
and they might be
logged in as somebody

02:17:24.209 --> 02:17:26.650 align:middle line:90%
else in their household.

02:17:26.650 --> 02:17:28.680 align:middle line:84%
So if it's a small
meeting, sometimes I

02:17:28.680 --> 02:17:31.350 align:middle line:84%
will change other
folks' names that I see

02:17:31.350 --> 02:17:33.610 align:middle line:90%
are incorrect if I know them.

02:17:33.610 --> 02:17:35.850 align:middle line:84%
I look at my own name
to see what's there.

02:17:35.850 --> 02:17:39.120 align:middle line:84%
You can encourage folks
to change their names

02:17:39.120 --> 02:17:44.070 align:middle line:84%
so that their pronouns show
where their name is as well.

02:17:44.070 --> 02:17:47.309 align:middle line:84%
So it's worth
taking a look there.

02:17:47.309 --> 02:17:50.250 align:middle line:84%
I also encourage
folks to use headsets.

02:17:50.250 --> 02:17:53.430 align:middle line:84%
Often, audio quality
is better if you're

02:17:53.430 --> 02:17:55.740 align:middle line:90%
using a headset versus not.

02:17:55.740 --> 02:17:57.110 align:middle line:90%
So it's something to consider.

02:17:57.110 --> 02:17:59.610 align:middle line:84%
I know there is at least one
of our colleagues in our office

02:17:59.610 --> 02:18:03.330 align:middle line:84%
who says she has a much easier
time hearing and participating

02:18:03.330 --> 02:18:07.950 align:middle line:84%
actively if everybody in
the room is using a headset.

02:18:07.950 --> 02:18:10.170 align:middle line:84%
And I don't think they
even have to be fancy.

02:18:10.170 --> 02:18:12.809 align:middle line:84%
I'm just using today what
came with my iPhone, right?

02:18:12.809 --> 02:18:17.790 align:middle line:90%


02:18:17.790 --> 02:18:20.129 align:middle line:84%
And again, thinking
about muting participants

02:18:20.129 --> 02:18:22.889 align:middle line:84%
who aren't speaking, so
whether you have everybody

02:18:22.889 --> 02:18:24.990 align:middle line:84%
automatically muted
as they're joining.

02:18:24.990 --> 02:18:28.469 align:middle line:84%
But background noise can
really be distracting.

02:18:28.469 --> 02:18:30.600 align:middle line:84%
It can interrupt the
meeting, but also

02:18:30.600 --> 02:18:33.200 align:middle line:84%
make it much more difficult to
hear folks as they're talking.

02:18:33.200 --> 02:18:35.549 align:middle line:84%
So encouraging folks
to mute themselves

02:18:35.549 --> 02:18:37.350 align:middle line:90%
and unmute themselves.

02:18:37.350 --> 02:18:39.930 align:middle line:84%
The side issue
there is that then I

02:18:39.930 --> 02:18:44.275 align:middle line:84%
find myself watching the
screen to see who is talking,

02:18:44.275 --> 02:18:46.650 align:middle line:84%
but I can't hear them to remind
them to unmute themselves

02:18:46.650 --> 02:18:49.200 align:middle line:90%
when they want to talk.

02:18:49.200 --> 02:18:51.360 align:middle line:84%
We think about things
like telling participants

02:18:51.360 --> 02:18:53.320 align:middle line:90%
how they can ask questions.

02:18:53.320 --> 02:18:56.969 align:middle line:84%
So you might encourage folks
to use the chat function,

02:18:56.969 --> 02:19:01.209 align:middle line:84%
or you might also allow them
to ask questions verbally.

02:19:01.209 --> 02:19:04.559 align:middle line:84%
Using both is an example of
universal design for folks

02:19:04.559 --> 02:19:07.590 align:middle line:84%
that are more comfortable
doing one or the other--

02:19:07.590 --> 02:19:09.600 align:middle line:84%
utilizing things like
hand raising functions

02:19:09.600 --> 02:19:12.700 align:middle line:90%
in your software.

02:19:12.700 --> 02:19:14.438 align:middle line:84%
We like to allow time
for introductions

02:19:14.438 --> 02:19:16.980 align:middle line:84%
at the beginning of the meeting
if it's a small meeting so we

02:19:16.980 --> 02:19:19.980 align:middle line:90%
all know one another.

02:19:19.980 --> 02:19:21.750 align:middle line:84%
Thinking about how
you can incorporate

02:19:21.750 --> 02:19:24.090 align:middle line:84%
a variety of method
instructional methods

02:19:24.090 --> 02:19:24.910 align:middle line:90%
in your meetings.

02:19:24.910 --> 02:19:27.930 align:middle line:84%
So in a meeting that
we hold regularly,

02:19:27.930 --> 02:19:30.719 align:middle line:84%
we might have somebody
give a presentation.

02:19:30.719 --> 02:19:34.320 align:middle line:84%
We might have some time
for large group discussion.

02:19:34.320 --> 02:19:36.365 align:middle line:84%
And then we've been using
a lot of breakout rooms

02:19:36.365 --> 02:19:37.740 align:middle line:84%
recently, particularly
if we have

02:19:37.740 --> 02:19:40.030 align:middle line:90%
a meeting of 20 or 30 people.

02:19:40.030 --> 02:19:42.030 align:middle line:84%
Taking a few minutes at
the beginning or the end

02:19:42.030 --> 02:19:45.330 align:middle line:84%
of the meeting to go to breakout
rooms, have some small group

02:19:45.330 --> 02:19:48.792 align:middle line:84%
discussion is particularly
friendly, but also

02:19:48.792 --> 02:19:50.250 align:middle line:84%
can lead to important
conversations

02:19:50.250 --> 02:19:51.750 align:middle line:84%
that you don't
necessarily have when

02:19:51.750 --> 02:19:55.527 align:middle line:84%
you have a whole bunch
of people in one room.

02:19:55.527 --> 02:19:58.110 align:middle line:84%
One of the things we encourage
folks to do in any presentation

02:19:58.110 --> 02:20:01.280 align:middle line:84%
that they do and that you may
have noticed Sheryl and Terrill

02:20:01.280 --> 02:20:04.380 align:middle line:84%
and I doing this morning is
speaking at a key content

02:20:04.380 --> 02:20:06.350 align:middle line:90%
that's presented visually.

02:20:06.350 --> 02:20:09.390 align:middle line:84%
So a lot of folks will
have a bunch of information

02:20:09.390 --> 02:20:11.160 align:middle line:90%
they toss up on a slide.

02:20:11.160 --> 02:20:13.780 align:middle line:84%
And then they say,
well, you can see here.

02:20:13.780 --> 02:20:16.150 align:middle line:84%
And the problem with
that is, first of all,

02:20:16.150 --> 02:20:17.040 align:middle line:84%
there's the folks
that can't see it,

02:20:17.040 --> 02:20:18.998 align:middle line:84%
but then the folks that
are also trying to read

02:20:18.998 --> 02:20:21.340 align:middle line:90%
that while listening to you.

02:20:21.340 --> 02:20:24.090 align:middle line:84%
And it really asks people
to divide their attention.

02:20:24.090 --> 02:20:27.180 align:middle line:84%
So any content that's
presented visually

02:20:27.180 --> 02:20:29.850 align:middle line:90%
should be spoken as well.

02:20:29.850 --> 02:20:32.630 align:middle line:84%
Consider whether you want to
use automatic captioning tools.

02:20:32.630 --> 02:20:36.810 align:middle line:84%
Again, so within both
Google Slides and Microsoft

02:20:36.810 --> 02:20:38.910 align:middle line:84%
PowerPoint, there are
automatic captioning tools

02:20:38.910 --> 02:20:41.135 align:middle line:90%
that do a decent job.

02:20:41.135 --> 02:20:42.510 align:middle line:84%
So if you don't
have a captioner,

02:20:42.510 --> 02:20:46.260 align:middle line:84%
you can utilize those
as you're presenting.

02:20:46.260 --> 02:20:49.140 align:middle line:84%
I encourage you to identify
somebody to take notes.

02:20:49.140 --> 02:20:51.990 align:middle line:84%
So that might be
jotting down resources,

02:20:51.990 --> 02:20:56.580 align:middle line:84%
action items, follow-up
steps throughout the meeting

02:20:56.580 --> 02:20:58.290 align:middle line:90%
to share with everybody.

02:20:58.290 --> 02:20:59.790 align:middle line:84%
That way, it's only
one person who's

02:20:59.790 --> 02:21:04.080 align:middle line:84%
collecting that information
and sharing it afterwards.

02:21:04.080 --> 02:21:05.580 align:middle line:84%
We frequently
encourage participants

02:21:05.580 --> 02:21:07.500 align:middle line:84%
to speak their name
every time that they

02:21:07.500 --> 02:21:11.940 align:middle line:84%
speak as a means of helping
folks who may not know who's

02:21:11.940 --> 02:21:15.390 align:middle line:84%
speaking, particularly
folks, again, who may not

02:21:15.390 --> 02:21:18.100 align:middle line:84%
be able to see that the screen
highlights that person who's

02:21:18.100 --> 02:21:18.600 align:middle line:90%
speaking.

02:21:18.600 --> 02:21:21.150 align:middle line:90%


02:21:21.150 --> 02:21:24.017 align:middle line:84%
And then, after
meetings, we consider it

02:21:24.017 --> 02:21:25.600 align:middle line:84%
good practice to
follow-up with folks,

02:21:25.600 --> 02:21:28.680 align:middle line:84%
so following up with things
like URLs and resources

02:21:28.680 --> 02:21:32.760 align:middle line:84%
that are mentioned,
action items via email.

02:21:32.760 --> 02:21:36.420 align:middle line:84%
Gather feedback from folks that
attended about accessibility.

02:21:36.420 --> 02:21:38.970 align:middle line:84%
If you were doing something like
captioning or sign language,

02:21:38.970 --> 02:21:40.020 align:middle line:90%
how did it work to them?

02:21:40.020 --> 02:21:42.450 align:middle line:84%
And how did it work for
them, and figuring out

02:21:42.450 --> 02:21:45.450 align:middle line:84%
how you can make some
adjustments to future meetings

02:21:45.450 --> 02:21:47.490 align:middle line:90%
to make them more accessible.

02:21:47.490 --> 02:21:50.940 align:middle line:84%
So that's all I wanted
to share about that.

02:21:50.940 --> 02:21:53.190 align:middle line:84%
We have a resource we've
written that shares some more

02:21:53.190 --> 02:21:56.040 align:middle line:84%
information about
these tips that I

02:21:56.040 --> 02:21:57.540 align:middle line:84%
will put the link
for in the chat

02:21:57.540 --> 02:22:00.330 align:middle line:90%
and in our follow-up notes.

02:22:00.330 --> 02:22:02.460 align:middle line:84%
So I'm happy to take
questions that folks have.

02:22:02.460 --> 02:22:06.530 align:middle line:84%
And I know Sheryl and Terrill
are still on the line as well

02:22:06.530 --> 02:22:07.718 align:middle line:90%
to take questions.

02:22:07.718 --> 02:22:08.760 align:middle line:90%
SHERYL BURGSTAHLER: Sure.

02:22:08.760 --> 02:22:10.010 align:middle line:90%
I've got one for you, Brianna.

02:22:10.010 --> 02:22:13.380 align:middle line:90%


02:22:13.380 --> 02:22:16.303 align:middle line:90%
It's about platforms.

02:22:16.303 --> 02:22:17.970 align:middle line:84%
This actually might
be better for Terry,

02:22:17.970 --> 02:22:19.570 align:middle line:90%
but you two can decide.

02:22:19.570 --> 02:22:22.680 align:middle line:84%
Best practices for
platforms for highly

02:22:22.680 --> 02:22:25.290 align:middle line:84%
interactive and collaborative
meetings-- you talked

02:22:25.290 --> 02:22:26.670 align:middle line:90%
about breaking up into groups.

02:22:26.670 --> 02:22:29.740 align:middle line:84%
That's probably the biggest
thing we use for collaboration.

02:22:29.740 --> 02:22:31.440 align:middle line:84%
So you can comment
on that, or Terry

02:22:31.440 --> 02:22:35.998 align:middle line:84%
can if there are some platforms
that are better than others.

02:22:35.998 --> 02:22:38.040 align:middle line:84%
BRIANNA BLASER: I don't
know about breakout rooms

02:22:38.040 --> 02:22:42.287 align:middle line:84%
and other platforms, but I
will share that I have just

02:22:42.287 --> 02:22:44.120 align:middle line:84%
enjoyed it and found
that, particularly when

02:22:44.120 --> 02:22:46.730 align:middle line:84%
we are all at home
during this pandemic,

02:22:46.730 --> 02:22:49.310 align:middle line:84%
it has been an opportunity
to have some networking type

02:22:49.310 --> 02:22:51.590 align:middle line:84%
conversations during
meetings that you might not

02:22:51.590 --> 02:22:53.592 align:middle line:90%
have otherwise.

02:22:53.592 --> 02:22:56.050 align:middle line:84%
Terrill, I don't know if you
know more about breakout rooms

02:22:56.050 --> 02:22:58.760 align:middle line:90%
on various platforms.

02:22:58.760 --> 02:23:00.760 align:middle line:84%
TERRILL THOMPSON:
Unfortunately, I don't really.

02:23:00.760 --> 02:23:06.520 align:middle line:84%
I, like you, have been focusing
on the tools that we use.

02:23:06.520 --> 02:23:10.090 align:middle line:84%
And so yeah, we're getting the
most out of Zoom and the fact

02:23:10.090 --> 02:23:13.520 align:middle line:84%
that you can use the breakout
rooms and sort of mix it up,

02:23:13.520 --> 02:23:15.820 align:middle line:84%
so you get big
group discussions,

02:23:15.820 --> 02:23:18.430 align:middle line:84%
and then go off into breakout
rooms, and then come back

02:23:18.430 --> 02:23:22.960 align:middle line:84%
and have big group
discussions as follow-up

02:23:22.960 --> 02:23:24.407 align:middle line:90%
can be really useful.

02:23:24.407 --> 02:23:25.990 align:middle line:84%
There's a question
in chat right now--

02:23:25.990 --> 02:23:28.550 align:middle line:84%
does anyone know if Zoom does
captioning in breakout rooms

02:23:28.550 --> 02:23:29.050 align:middle line:90%
too?

02:23:29.050 --> 02:23:30.990 align:middle line:90%
And it does.

02:23:30.990 --> 02:23:35.500 align:middle line:84%
The captionist-- if you do
breakout rooms, right now,

02:23:35.500 --> 02:23:37.810 align:middle line:84%
since we have a
live captioner, then

02:23:37.810 --> 02:23:39.550 align:middle line:84%
we would need to
make sure to assign

02:23:39.550 --> 02:23:45.680 align:middle line:84%
the captioner to an
appropriate breakout room.

02:23:45.680 --> 02:23:49.330 align:middle line:84%
So if you've got somebody that
you know who needs captions,

02:23:49.330 --> 02:23:53.030 align:middle line:84%
then that would be a little
bit challenging to organize,

02:23:53.030 --> 02:23:54.940 align:middle line:90%
depending on how many there are.

02:23:54.940 --> 02:23:58.630 align:middle line:84%
But anybody who you
know is using captions

02:23:58.630 --> 02:24:01.480 align:middle line:84%
needs to go where
the captioner goes.

02:24:01.480 --> 02:24:04.630 align:middle line:84%
So that becomes a bit
of a management issue,

02:24:04.630 --> 02:24:06.535 align:middle line:84%
depending on how
large your group is.

02:24:06.535 --> 02:24:08.327 align:middle line:84%
SHERYL BURGSTAHLER:
And an interactive tool

02:24:08.327 --> 02:24:11.440 align:middle line:84%
that we use a lot with Zoom and
you can use it on Adobe Connect

02:24:11.440 --> 02:24:15.760 align:middle line:84%
and other conferencing packages
as well is the poll function.

02:24:15.760 --> 02:24:18.160 align:middle line:84%
And we didn't do it
today, but if we had,

02:24:18.160 --> 02:24:20.530 align:middle line:84%
it would have been at the
beginning when you came in,

02:24:20.530 --> 02:24:24.040 align:middle line:84%
rather than putting your
information in chat, which

02:24:24.040 --> 02:24:26.380 align:middle line:84%
is what we had decided
to do, that you put

02:24:26.380 --> 02:24:30.280 align:middle line:84%
your name and your organization
and the title of your position

02:24:30.280 --> 02:24:31.180 align:middle line:90%
or what you do.

02:24:31.180 --> 02:24:34.270 align:middle line:84%
And other than
that, an alternative

02:24:34.270 --> 02:24:37.170 align:middle line:84%
is to have a poll that
would've been up on the screen.

02:24:37.170 --> 02:24:39.820 align:middle line:84%
And it probably would have
been something like check all

02:24:39.820 --> 02:24:41.220 align:middle line:90%
that apply.

02:24:41.220 --> 02:24:42.550 align:middle line:90%
In my job I--

02:24:42.550 --> 02:24:44.500 align:middle line:90%
and then it says I teach online.

02:24:44.500 --> 02:24:46.740 align:middle line:90%
I help others teach online.

02:24:46.740 --> 02:24:48.730 align:middle line:90%
I design courses.

02:24:48.730 --> 02:24:50.600 align:middle line:90%
I'm an IT specialist.

02:24:50.600 --> 02:24:52.690 align:middle line:84%
I'm an AT specialist,
or whatever.

02:24:52.690 --> 02:24:57.340 align:middle line:84%
And then people would
indicate their position.

02:24:57.340 --> 02:24:59.350 align:middle line:84%
And then I, as the
speaker at that time,

02:24:59.350 --> 02:25:01.000 align:middle line:90%
would have summarized that.

02:25:01.000 --> 02:25:02.660 align:middle line:84%
But they would see
it on their screen.

02:25:02.660 --> 02:25:05.530 align:middle line:90%
I like doing that.

02:25:05.530 --> 02:25:09.300 align:middle line:84%
So that's another way to get
people to interact as well.

02:25:09.300 --> 02:25:12.300 align:middle line:90%
So I do know in meetings--

02:25:12.300 --> 02:25:15.630 align:middle line:84%
I have more experience in
this in meetings that don't--

02:25:15.630 --> 02:25:17.280 align:middle line:84%
well, I guess
professionally and not

02:25:17.280 --> 02:25:21.540 align:middle line:84%
professionally Zoom meetings
is a smaller meeting--

02:25:21.540 --> 02:25:24.930 align:middle line:84%
not the size of this one that
we have today, but having

02:25:24.930 --> 02:25:26.110 align:middle line:90%
everybody communicate.

02:25:26.110 --> 02:25:28.402 align:middle line:84%
And there are various ways
you can do that to interact.

02:25:28.402 --> 02:25:32.160 align:middle line:84%
One is just look at all of
the people on the screen,

02:25:32.160 --> 02:25:33.300 align:middle line:90%
and somebody facilitates.

02:25:33.300 --> 02:25:35.070 align:middle line:90%
And you just go down.

02:25:35.070 --> 02:25:37.500 align:middle line:84%
Terrill talks now, and then
Brianna, then Terrell, then

02:25:37.500 --> 02:25:38.580 align:middle line:90%
whatever.

02:25:38.580 --> 02:25:42.300 align:middle line:84%
And there's an more informal,
maybe friendlier way

02:25:42.300 --> 02:25:45.150 align:middle line:84%
to do that, where
one person takes

02:25:45.150 --> 02:25:46.610 align:middle line:84%
ownership of making
sure everyone

02:25:46.610 --> 02:25:47.610 align:middle line:90%
contributes in some way.

02:25:47.610 --> 02:25:51.450 align:middle line:84%
So they might call on them,
but let people voluntarily

02:25:51.450 --> 02:25:53.370 align:middle line:84%
talk and share their
story, maybe the answer

02:25:53.370 --> 02:25:55.800 align:middle line:90%
to one question or something.

02:25:55.800 --> 02:25:57.900 align:middle line:84%
And then that
person keeps track.

02:25:57.900 --> 02:26:00.050 align:middle line:84%
And so if she noticed
that, well, Brianna

02:26:00.050 --> 02:26:01.680 align:middle line:84%
didn't say anything, she
could say, well, Brianna,

02:26:01.680 --> 02:26:03.180 align:middle line:84%
do you have anything
to add of that?

02:26:03.180 --> 02:26:05.950 align:middle line:84%
It's a friendly way to
get people to interact.

02:26:05.950 --> 02:26:10.240 align:middle line:90%
So that can help as well.

02:26:10.240 --> 02:26:15.220 align:middle line:90%
So I think that handles that.

02:26:15.220 --> 02:26:17.550 align:middle line:84%
Oh, tips in getting
to everyone-- well,

02:26:17.550 --> 02:26:19.070 align:middle line:90%
when I do that-- when I--

02:26:19.070 --> 02:26:21.750 align:middle line:84%
if I do the infor-- if you do
the formal way where you just

02:26:21.750 --> 02:26:23.850 align:middle line:84%
go one person to the
other in the order

02:26:23.850 --> 02:26:25.950 align:middle line:84%
you see them on
your screen, that's

02:26:25.950 --> 02:26:28.620 align:middle line:84%
the easiest way to make
sure everybody contributes.

02:26:28.620 --> 02:26:30.930 align:middle line:84%
The informal one,
when I've done it,

02:26:30.930 --> 02:26:32.700 align:middle line:84%
it's been a relatively
small group,

02:26:32.700 --> 02:26:34.980 align:middle line:90%
like maybe 20, 25 people.

02:26:34.980 --> 02:26:39.420 align:middle line:84%
And I make a little
note on a piece paper

02:26:39.420 --> 02:26:43.170 align:middle line:90%
and keep track that way.

02:26:43.170 --> 02:26:45.990 align:middle line:84%
BRIANNA BLASER: I have found
that if we want people to speak

02:26:45.990 --> 02:26:48.780 align:middle line:84%
in an online meeting, what
Sheryl's talking about calling

02:26:48.780 --> 02:26:50.940 align:middle line:84%
on particular people,
making it clear

02:26:50.940 --> 02:26:52.920 align:middle line:84%
how the flow of the
conversation should go

02:26:52.920 --> 02:26:56.880 align:middle line:84%
makes it run a lot
easier than just waiting

02:26:56.880 --> 02:26:59.130 align:middle line:84%
for the next person to talk,
because then nobody knows

02:26:59.130 --> 02:27:00.218 align:middle line:90%
whose turn should be next.

02:27:00.218 --> 02:27:01.260 align:middle line:90%
SHERYL BURGSTAHLER: Yeah.

02:27:01.260 --> 02:27:04.470 align:middle line:84%
Yeah, it does take facilitation
either way, actually.

02:27:04.470 --> 02:27:07.060 align:middle line:84%
But that second one,
where if there's a pause,

02:27:07.060 --> 02:27:09.607 align:middle line:84%
they can say, OK, well, Terrill,
you didn't say anything.

02:27:09.607 --> 02:27:10.940 align:middle line:90%
Why don't you say something now?

02:27:10.940 --> 02:27:13.920 align:middle line:84%
But one reason I like the
more informal one, too,

02:27:13.920 --> 02:27:16.950 align:middle line:84%
if it's a fairly small group
and you know the people,

02:27:16.950 --> 02:27:18.700 align:middle line:84%
then if someone
hasn't contributed,

02:27:18.700 --> 02:27:20.370 align:middle line:84%
you might know
something that they

02:27:20.370 --> 02:27:23.010 align:middle line:84%
could contribute that's relative
what you're talking about.

02:27:23.010 --> 02:27:25.170 align:middle line:84%
And you can actually
prompt it then and say, oh,

02:27:25.170 --> 02:27:26.107 align:middle line:90%
you were telling me--

02:27:26.107 --> 02:27:28.440 align:middle line:84%
John, you were telling me
last week about such and such.

02:27:28.440 --> 02:27:30.120 align:middle line:84%
Could you share
that with the group?

02:27:30.120 --> 02:27:33.130 align:middle line:84%
So you facilitate
the communication.

02:27:33.130 --> 02:27:34.660 align:middle line:84%
So it depends on
what your style is.

02:27:34.660 --> 02:27:36.580 align:middle line:90%
And--

02:27:36.580 --> 02:27:39.000 align:middle line:84%
BRIANNA BLASER: I think
not everybody necessarily

02:27:39.000 --> 02:27:40.710 align:middle line:84%
wants to share with
the large group,

02:27:40.710 --> 02:27:45.400 align:middle line:84%
and that could be related to
a disability, say, anxiety,

02:27:45.400 --> 02:27:46.210 align:middle line:90%
or whatnot.

02:27:46.210 --> 02:27:47.585 align:middle line:84%
And so that's
another place where

02:27:47.585 --> 02:27:49.770 align:middle line:84%
those breakout rooms and
utilizing multiple forms

02:27:49.770 --> 02:27:52.320 align:middle line:84%
of interaction allow some
folks to share in a way that's

02:27:52.320 --> 02:27:54.480 align:middle line:90%
more comfortable for them.

02:27:54.480 --> 02:27:56.313 align:middle line:84%
SHERYL BURGSTAHLER:
Yes, absolutely.

02:27:56.313 --> 02:27:58.230 align:middle line:84%
BRIANNA BLASER: Kate
mentioned Poll Everywhere

02:27:58.230 --> 02:28:00.720 align:middle line:90%
as an effective tool to use.

02:28:00.720 --> 02:28:02.670 align:middle line:84%
I know a lot of folks
really do like that.

02:28:02.670 --> 02:28:04.388 align:middle line:90%
It's visual.

02:28:04.388 --> 02:28:06.180 align:middle line:84%
And she pointed out
that then the moderator

02:28:06.180 --> 02:28:07.300 align:middle line:90%
can read that out loud.

02:28:07.300 --> 02:28:09.720 align:middle line:84%
And I think that's another
thing we didn't talk about,

02:28:09.720 --> 02:28:12.585 align:middle line:84%
but doing things like reading
questions from the chat

02:28:12.585 --> 02:28:16.687 align:middle line:84%
out loud as you were responding
to them, much like you might

02:28:16.687 --> 02:28:19.020 align:middle line:84%
repeat questions from an
audience to make sure everybody

02:28:19.020 --> 02:28:21.195 align:middle line:84%
heard them in an
in-person presentation,

02:28:21.195 --> 02:28:23.820 align:middle line:84%
again, that could make sure that
everybody is on the same page.

02:28:23.820 --> 02:28:29.360 align:middle line:90%


02:28:29.360 --> 02:28:35.722 align:middle line:84%
SHERYL BURGSTAHLER: OK, any
other questions about meetings?

02:28:35.722 --> 02:28:37.680 align:middle line:84%
As I mentioned earlier,
Brianna is the pro here

02:28:37.680 --> 02:28:39.930 align:middle line:84%
because she runs
many of our meetings

02:28:39.930 --> 02:28:43.170 align:middle line:84%
and she does a great
job of doing that.

02:28:43.170 --> 02:28:46.000 align:middle line:84%
And you can tell that she just
thinks about a lot of things.

02:28:46.000 --> 02:28:49.705 align:middle line:84%
And that's what a universal
design is all about.

02:28:49.705 --> 02:28:51.330 align:middle line:84%
I have a couple of
things that I wanted

02:28:51.330 --> 02:28:54.420 align:middle line:84%
to make a comment on
that came up in the chat,

02:28:54.420 --> 02:28:55.950 align:middle line:84%
and maybe we covered
at some level,

02:28:55.950 --> 02:28:58.110 align:middle line:84%
but things that are
interesting to me.

02:28:58.110 --> 02:29:01.050 align:middle line:84%
One of them is this
whole idea of whether you

02:29:01.050 --> 02:29:06.440 align:middle line:84%
are required to caption videos
in a course where a student--

02:29:06.440 --> 02:29:08.450 align:middle line:84%
where you don't have
a student who's deaf.

02:29:08.450 --> 02:29:11.390 align:middle line:90%


02:29:11.390 --> 02:29:13.080 align:middle line:84%
Captions benefit
a lot of people,

02:29:13.080 --> 02:29:15.720 align:middle line:84%
but the law requires
that we provide captions

02:29:15.720 --> 02:29:17.580 align:middle line:84%
for a student who is
deaf or sign language

02:29:17.580 --> 02:29:21.948 align:middle line:84%
interpreting, some way that they
can have access to the content.

02:29:21.948 --> 02:29:22.740 align:middle line:90%
It kind of depends.

02:29:22.740 --> 02:29:24.948 align:middle line:84%
And the person who asked
the question kind of tied it

02:29:24.948 --> 02:29:25.560 align:middle line:90%
in-- what it--

02:29:25.560 --> 02:29:30.480 align:middle line:84%
does-- is-- do we have to--
is it then part of WCAG 2.1?

02:29:30.480 --> 02:29:33.570 align:middle line:84%
Well, captioning videos
is part of WCAG 2.1.

02:29:33.570 --> 02:29:40.350 align:middle line:84%
So meeting those-- that level,
level A, in that case, of 2.1,

02:29:40.350 --> 02:29:43.050 align:middle line:90%
or level AA, as well.

02:29:43.050 --> 02:29:44.110 align:middle line:90%
You would capture them.

02:29:44.110 --> 02:29:46.110 align:middle line:84%
It's just a standard
or a guideline.

02:29:46.110 --> 02:29:47.760 align:middle line:84%
You either do it
or you don't do it.

02:29:47.760 --> 02:29:50.460 align:middle line:84%
But I think what this
person meant is, is it

02:29:50.460 --> 02:29:53.150 align:middle line:90%
legal or compliant with ADA?

02:29:53.150 --> 02:29:55.380 align:middle line:84%
Well, ADA-- again, civil
rights legislation.

02:29:55.380 --> 02:30:00.090 align:middle line:84%
So anybody in your class that
needs an accommodation in order

02:30:00.090 --> 02:30:03.870 align:middle line:84%
to access content in your
class needs to be able to--

02:30:03.870 --> 02:30:05.400 align:middle line:84%
needs to be provided
one, and it has

02:30:05.400 --> 02:30:07.740 align:middle line:84%
to be a reasonable
accommodation.

02:30:07.740 --> 02:30:12.130 align:middle line:84%
And there's a lot of case law
that decides these issues.

02:30:12.130 --> 02:30:15.150 align:middle line:84%
And I'm not a lawyer, but
I can say these things can

02:30:15.150 --> 02:30:16.750 align:middle line:90%
go one way or another.

02:30:16.750 --> 02:30:19.842 align:middle line:84%
And so if you have a student
who's deaf in your class,

02:30:19.842 --> 02:30:22.050 align:middle line:84%
you need to provide access
to all that content, which

02:30:22.050 --> 02:30:24.080 align:middle line:90%
would probably be captions.

02:30:24.080 --> 02:30:25.830 align:middle line:84%
But suppose you have
a class of 10 people,

02:30:25.830 --> 02:30:26.610 align:middle line:90%
and you knew the people.

02:30:26.610 --> 02:30:27.690 align:middle line:90%
Maybe it's a graduate course.

02:30:27.690 --> 02:30:29.940 align:middle line:84%
You know them in person, and
there isn't anybody there

02:30:29.940 --> 02:30:32.593 align:middle line:90%
that requires captions.

02:30:32.593 --> 02:30:34.260 align:middle line:84%
I don't think the
Office of Civil Rights

02:30:34.260 --> 02:30:36.810 align:middle line:84%
is going to come after you
for that particular class.

02:30:36.810 --> 02:30:39.270 align:middle line:84%
It might not be best
practice of instruction

02:30:39.270 --> 02:30:41.670 align:middle line:84%
because I think you
would caption too

02:30:41.670 --> 02:30:46.530 align:middle line:84%
as a best practice of
teaching strategy in keeping

02:30:46.530 --> 02:30:49.260 align:middle line:90%
with universal design.

02:30:49.260 --> 02:30:54.303 align:middle line:84%
But it depends on who you're
providing that video for.

02:30:54.303 --> 02:30:56.220 align:middle line:84%
If you decide, oh, yeah,
that's a great video.

02:30:56.220 --> 02:30:58.303 align:middle line:84%
I'm also going to put it
up on YouTube for anybody

02:30:58.303 --> 02:30:59.880 align:middle line:90%
else who wants to watch it.

02:30:59.880 --> 02:31:01.915 align:middle line:84%
As soon as you provide
something to the world,

02:31:01.915 --> 02:31:03.540 align:middle line:84%
the world includes
people who are deaf,

02:31:03.540 --> 02:31:06.780 align:middle line:84%
so then you're obligated
to provide captioning.

02:31:06.780 --> 02:31:09.960 align:middle line:84%
Harvard and MIT received
civil rights complaints

02:31:09.960 --> 02:31:13.650 align:middle line:84%
about not captioning
a whole lot of videos

02:31:13.650 --> 02:31:16.437 align:middle line:84%
that they had put
up for the public.

02:31:16.437 --> 02:31:18.270 align:middle line:84%
And as I understand it,
some of those videos

02:31:18.270 --> 02:31:21.390 align:middle line:84%
were actually used with
federal funds to create.

02:31:21.390 --> 02:31:23.580 align:middle line:84%
But anyway, they wanted
to provide these videos

02:31:23.580 --> 02:31:26.400 align:middle line:90%
to the population.

02:31:26.400 --> 02:31:28.178 align:middle line:84%
Everybody in the world
could access them.

02:31:28.178 --> 02:31:30.720 align:middle line:84%
Well, they were really kind of
irritated, some of the members

02:31:30.720 --> 02:31:33.810 align:middle line:84%
there, when the Office of Civil
Rights came along and said,

02:31:33.810 --> 02:31:36.090 align:middle line:84%
well, you have to
caption all those videos.

02:31:36.090 --> 02:31:37.890 align:middle line:84%
And they thought it
was really unfair.

02:31:37.890 --> 02:31:39.307 align:middle line:84%
And some people
were saying, well,

02:31:39.307 --> 02:31:41.100 align:middle line:84%
gee, here, we were
trying to just make

02:31:41.100 --> 02:31:44.160 align:middle line:84%
something available
free to benefit people,

02:31:44.160 --> 02:31:49.110 align:middle line:84%
and then we get this kick in the
stomach for not capturing them.

02:31:49.110 --> 02:31:51.630 align:middle line:84%
Well, my response to
that is, well, you're

02:31:51.630 --> 02:31:55.180 align:middle line:84%
the ones who said you are making
them available to everyone.

02:31:55.180 --> 02:31:56.285 align:middle line:90%
That's your decision.

02:31:56.285 --> 02:31:57.410 align:middle line:90%
You didn't have to do that.

02:31:57.410 --> 02:31:59.340 align:middle line:84%
But once you do that,
you're committed to make

02:31:59.340 --> 02:32:02.760 align:middle line:84%
it available to everyone, which
includes people who are deaf.

02:32:02.760 --> 02:32:06.250 align:middle line:84%
And so it's who you're making
that a video available to you.

02:32:06.250 --> 02:32:07.890 align:middle line:84%
There's another
issue, and that is

02:32:07.890 --> 02:32:10.200 align:middle line:84%
what happens when you
get a legal complaint

02:32:10.200 --> 02:32:12.630 align:middle line:84%
about the overall
inaccessibility

02:32:12.630 --> 02:32:15.720 align:middle line:84%
of your IT on a campus, I would
say, post-secondary campus.

02:32:15.720 --> 02:32:17.730 align:middle line:84%
There are hundreds of
these complaints now.

02:32:17.730 --> 02:32:19.980 align:middle line:84%
They're either made through
the Office of Civil Rights

02:32:19.980 --> 02:32:21.750 align:middle line:90%
or the Department of Justice.

02:32:21.750 --> 02:32:25.590 align:middle line:84%
And we have access to
examples of these legal cases

02:32:25.590 --> 02:32:28.080 align:middle line:84%
up on our website,
the IT accessibility

02:32:28.080 --> 02:32:31.380 align:middle line:84%
website that Terrill
gave you the URL helpful,

02:32:31.380 --> 02:32:34.050 align:middle line:84%
and you'll see it in
the after product.

02:32:34.050 --> 02:32:40.545 align:middle line:84%
So what happened then is
the Office of Civil Rights--

02:32:40.545 --> 02:32:42.420 align:middle line:84%
I think was out of the
Department of Justice.

02:32:42.420 --> 02:32:44.190 align:middle line:90%
It can be one or both--

02:32:44.190 --> 02:32:47.400 align:middle line:84%
came to them and said,
well, we have a complaint

02:32:47.400 --> 02:32:49.830 align:middle line:84%
from individuals in
the deaf community,

02:32:49.830 --> 02:32:52.950 align:middle line:84%
but also from a deaf
support organization

02:32:52.950 --> 02:32:54.302 align:middle line:90%
representing that population.

02:32:54.302 --> 02:32:56.010 align:middle line:84%
So you need the caption
all those videos.

02:32:56.010 --> 02:32:58.860 align:middle line:90%


02:32:58.860 --> 02:33:02.007 align:middle line:84%
And there are other resolutions
from other campuses as well.

02:33:02.007 --> 02:33:03.840 align:middle line:84%
And when those come
out, sometimes they just

02:33:03.840 --> 02:33:06.540 align:middle line:84%
say you have to caption all
your videos in your courses.

02:33:06.540 --> 02:33:10.140 align:middle line:84%
And so then, you're kind of
getting an added requirement.

02:33:10.140 --> 02:33:12.600 align:middle line:84%
So anyway, that's kind
of wandering around here,

02:33:12.600 --> 02:33:15.635 align:middle line:84%
but you do have to provide
captions to a student

02:33:15.635 --> 02:33:17.010 align:middle line:84%
with a disability
who needs them.

02:33:17.010 --> 02:33:19.530 align:middle line:84%
That would likely be
a student who's deaf.

02:33:19.530 --> 02:33:22.710 align:middle line:84%
And you need to provide them
when anybody in the target

02:33:22.710 --> 02:33:24.630 align:middle line:84%
population, like if
it's a MOOC or whatever,

02:33:24.630 --> 02:33:27.540 align:middle line:84%
could possibly be
deaf, where if it's

02:33:27.540 --> 02:33:30.120 align:middle line:84%
a self-contained class where
you know the people in it

02:33:30.120 --> 02:33:32.310 align:middle line:84%
and there isn't a
person who is deaf,

02:33:32.310 --> 02:33:34.500 align:middle line:84%
I am not aware of
any legal challenges

02:33:34.500 --> 02:33:38.257 align:middle line:90%
to that particular scenario.

02:33:38.257 --> 02:33:40.340 align:middle line:84%
BRIANNA BLASER: Kay Strover
asked a great question

02:33:40.340 --> 02:33:41.900 align:middle line:84%
in the chat about
recruiting people

02:33:41.900 --> 02:33:44.930 align:middle line:84%
with disabilities to programs
both within and outside

02:33:44.930 --> 02:33:46.525 align:middle line:90%
the university.

02:33:46.525 --> 02:33:47.900 align:middle line:84%
So I have a few
ideas, and I know

02:33:47.900 --> 02:33:51.500 align:middle line:84%
Sheryl has lots of ideas
on this topic as well.

02:33:51.500 --> 02:33:53.210 align:middle line:84%
One thing that we
do is sometimes

02:33:53.210 --> 02:33:56.445 align:middle line:84%
recruiting specifically
through educators

02:33:56.445 --> 02:33:58.820 align:middle line:84%
that might be working with
students with disabilities, so

02:33:58.820 --> 02:34:01.160 align:middle line:84%
whether that's going through
our disability resources office

02:34:01.160 --> 02:34:03.290 align:middle line:84%
on campus and asking if
they can share information

02:34:03.290 --> 02:34:06.080 align:middle line:84%
with their students,
whether that is reaching out

02:34:06.080 --> 02:34:09.560 align:middle line:84%
to special education teachers
or other educators that

02:34:09.560 --> 02:34:11.060 align:middle line:84%
work with students
with disabilities

02:34:11.060 --> 02:34:13.222 align:middle line:90%
in our communities.

02:34:13.222 --> 02:34:15.680 align:middle line:84%
Of course, we know that not
every student with a disability

02:34:15.680 --> 02:34:18.050 align:middle line:84%
is going to be, for example,
on our campus, registered

02:34:18.050 --> 02:34:20.268 align:middle line:84%
with the disability
services office.

02:34:20.268 --> 02:34:22.310 align:middle line:84%
So we also try and send
out announcements broadly

02:34:22.310 --> 02:34:26.840 align:middle line:84%
because you never know where
you're going to pick folks up.

02:34:26.840 --> 02:34:30.000 align:middle line:84%
Sheryl, do you going to talk
a little bit more about that?

02:34:30.000 --> 02:34:30.525 align:middle line:84%
SHERYL BURGSTAHLER:
About recruiting?

02:34:30.525 --> 02:34:30.840 align:middle line:90%
BRIANNA BLASER: Yeah.

02:34:30.840 --> 02:34:31.890 align:middle line:84%
SHERYL BURGSTAHLER:
One thing that you

02:34:31.890 --> 02:34:33.960 align:middle line:84%
might want to consider
doing is if you have

02:34:33.960 --> 02:34:42.032 align:middle line:84%
a particular reason where you'd
like the impact or the input

02:34:42.032 --> 02:34:43.740 align:middle line:84%
from people with
disabilities, let's say,

02:34:43.740 --> 02:34:46.350 align:middle line:84%
for your class or something
you're doing-- maybe you're

02:34:46.350 --> 02:34:47.820 align:middle line:90%
teaching a class.

02:34:47.820 --> 02:34:50.310 align:middle line:84%
We actually will pay
students with disabilities

02:34:50.310 --> 02:34:51.930 align:middle line:90%
to engage with you.

02:34:51.930 --> 02:34:55.370 align:middle line:84%
We don't pay them a lot,
by way-- $50 or something,

02:34:55.370 --> 02:34:57.120 align:middle line:84%
for instance, if we
wanted to put together

02:34:57.120 --> 02:35:00.000 align:middle line:84%
a panel of students
with disabilities

02:35:00.000 --> 02:35:03.580 align:middle line:84%
to appear as guests
in your online course.

02:35:03.580 --> 02:35:05.080 align:middle line:84%
So we do have that
money to do that.

02:35:05.080 --> 02:35:06.830 align:middle line:84%
And we can actually
pay them out-of-state.

02:35:06.830 --> 02:35:09.600 align:middle line:84%
And you can just email
one of us so we can

02:35:09.600 --> 02:35:10.893 align:middle line:90%
see if we can make that happen.

02:35:10.893 --> 02:35:12.060 align:middle line:90%
Usually, we do it in person.

02:35:12.060 --> 02:35:14.143 align:middle line:84%
It's like if you're teaching
in class on sociology

02:35:14.143 --> 02:35:17.790 align:middle line:84%
of education, we can see if
we get round up maybe four

02:35:17.790 --> 02:35:19.890 align:middle line:84%
students with different
types of disabilities

02:35:19.890 --> 02:35:22.380 align:middle line:84%
to be a panel in that
class and answer questions

02:35:22.380 --> 02:35:26.530 align:middle line:84%
from the students and
faculty member as well.

02:35:26.530 --> 02:35:30.600 align:middle line:84%
So one thing that we do related
to what Brianna was saying

02:35:30.600 --> 02:35:32.490 align:middle line:90%
is we recruit on campus.

02:35:32.490 --> 02:35:35.530 align:middle line:84%
We put together opportunities,
newsletters we call them,

02:35:35.530 --> 02:35:37.380 align:middle line:84%
with campuses that
we're actually working

02:35:37.380 --> 02:35:39.360 align:middle line:90%
with in the DO-IT project.

02:35:39.360 --> 02:35:41.460 align:middle line:84%
We can distribute
that newsletter

02:35:41.460 --> 02:35:44.730 align:middle line:84%
that we'll put together with all
kinds of opportunities for them

02:35:44.730 --> 02:35:47.130 align:middle line:84%
through the disabled
student services office.

02:35:47.130 --> 02:35:49.815 align:middle line:84%
Now, some people back up and
say, well, wait a minute.

02:35:49.815 --> 02:35:51.690 align:middle line:84%
They can't provide you
with information about

02:35:51.690 --> 02:35:52.648 align:middle line:90%
who's registered there.

02:35:52.648 --> 02:35:53.910 align:middle line:90%
That's private information.

02:35:53.910 --> 02:35:56.730 align:middle line:84%
Absolutely, but I have yet
to find a disability services

02:35:56.730 --> 02:36:02.370 align:middle line:84%
office that does not have an
email-based discussion list

02:36:02.370 --> 02:36:03.810 align:middle line:84%
so they can
distribute information

02:36:03.810 --> 02:36:06.340 align:middle line:84%
to people who are
registered in their office.

02:36:06.340 --> 02:36:08.070 align:middle line:84%
So what that means is
if you put together

02:36:08.070 --> 02:36:10.640 align:middle line:84%
a paragraph of
recruiting to what--

02:36:10.640 --> 02:36:13.920 align:middle line:90%
what are we recruiting for.

02:36:13.920 --> 02:36:16.960 align:middle line:84%
They will most likely forward
that to those students.

02:36:16.960 --> 02:36:18.750 align:middle line:84%
And then they will get
in contact with you

02:36:18.750 --> 02:36:20.640 align:middle line:90%
if they're interested.

02:36:20.640 --> 02:36:24.130 align:middle line:84%
But again, even though
they keep the privacy,

02:36:24.130 --> 02:36:26.730 align:middle line:84%
there are ways to communicate
with those students

02:36:26.730 --> 02:36:29.188 align:middle line:90%
like the one I just described.

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BRIANNA BLASER: As
we're wrapping up,

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I want to encourage
folks, too, to ask

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other questions in the chat.

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Terrill was quite active
answering some questions

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from earlier.

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Terrill, do you want a
comment on any of those?

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TERRILL THOMPSON:
Not necessarily.

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[LAUGHTER]

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I'm doing my best to
catch up and keep up.

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But, yeah, check the chat
for answers to your question.

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And I'm still trying to see
what all has gone unanswered.

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SHERYL BURGSTAHLER: One
thing that just came up

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is that some states
require captioning

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by law in higher education--

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absolutely.

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When I had that slide
on legal issues,

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the two federal laws,
and then afterward,

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state and local and
campus requirements too.

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It might not be a legal
requirement by federal law,

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but it might be a requirement
because of efforts

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that your state is making
and your campus specific.

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One question that sometimes
comes up these days

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when I'm delivering
presentations

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is people will comment, at
least on our line drawings,

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of students with disabilities
using computers and so forth.

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We make those freely
available to the public.

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All of those images were--

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line drawings were
created, most of them,

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by students with disabilities
in our program or as a student

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helpers in our programs.

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And we can make them
available to you.

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Brianna will include in
that list of references

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that we will distribute
the URL where

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you can find tons
of line drawings

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like that because we
do have people that

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want to create
publications or websites

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and have some images of
individuals with disabilities

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but don't particularly
want to use

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real pictures of those students.

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Obviously, they'd have to
have permission to do that.

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But they're mainly
trying to make a point.

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And so I like the
artistic line drawings,

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and we have a ton of them.

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I don't know, 60,
more than 60, I bet.

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Anyway, so you'll
see the URL for that,

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and feel free to use them.

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We do ask that you
give us credit.

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Give credit to the source,
which would be the DO-IT Center,

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but there's some wording on
there for making that happen.

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BRIANNA BLASER: Great.

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Any closing thoughts, Sheryl?

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I did put up the resource
slide with some of these links

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we've talked about.

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As we've said
numerous times, we'll

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follow-up with an email
with more resources as well.

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SHERYL BURGSTAHLER:
A question often

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comes up is, well, what if
I'm using a commercial video

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and there aren't captions?

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We always recommend
to go to the company

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and try to get them to provide
captions on their video,

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so that's always a good thing.

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But what if you're
using it the next day?

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There are some tools
on the internet

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that actually allow you to
caption somebody else's video.

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And Amara-- isn't that the
name of the one we often use?

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And Terrill, do you
know of any others that

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allow you to do that?

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TERRILL THOMPSON:
There are quite a few.

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Amara, which is
A-M-A-R-A dot org.

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Is one that we use.

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DotSUB is another.

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It's Dot, D-O-T-S-U-B,
dotsub.com.

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There's a free tool
called Subtitle Horse,

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and I think probably
several others as well.

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SHERYL BURGSTAHLER:
OK, we're going

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to share the slides
and the recording

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and also short list of web
resources after the fact.

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We would like you to complete an
evaluation when you get access

02:40:18.050 --> 02:40:19.130 align:middle line:90%
to that.

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And within that, you can provide
ideas for further programs

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you might want to
provide, or perhaps

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repeat this one or something
similar to it to a large group

02:40:29.510 --> 02:40:31.940 align:middle line:84%
that you can put together,
like a large group of people

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at your institution or multiple
institutions in your region.

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If you get a pretty
large audience,

02:40:37.130 --> 02:40:40.220 align:middle line:84%
we generally will do that
because we have deliverables

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on our projects to reach
out to people, which

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is what we're doing today.

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But don't hesitate to
ask, and we might be

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able to do something like that.

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TERRILL THOMPSON:
Just a footnote, too--

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I just pasted a
link in the chat.

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There's quite a
bit of discussion

02:40:56.010 --> 02:41:01.350 align:middle line:84%
about long descriptions
of images, complex graphs

02:41:01.350 --> 02:41:04.240 align:middle line:84%
and charts and
that sort of thing.

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And the difficulty
of, as I mentioned,

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describing the takeaways
within the text,

02:41:12.780 --> 02:41:15.510 align:middle line:84%
sometimes that's
not appropriate,

02:41:15.510 --> 02:41:17.160 align:middle line:84%
given whatever the
need happens to be,

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or impossible given the
complexity of the image.

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So sometimes, providing access
to the raw data can help.

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There are tools that
blind people have access

02:41:29.880 --> 02:41:33.660 align:middle line:84%
to that can sonify data, but
they need access to the data

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in order to do that.

02:41:35.680 --> 02:41:38.690 align:middle line:84%
So providing access
to raw data--

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if it's a simple data set,
they could read the table

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with a screen reader user
with a screen reader.

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But there was also the
link that I provided--

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this was grant-funded research
by the National Center

02:41:50.760 --> 02:41:54.480 align:middle line:84%
on Accessible Media
on effective ways

02:41:54.480 --> 02:41:57.790 align:middle line:90%
to describe scientific images.

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And so it goes into
a lot of detail,

02:42:00.210 --> 02:42:02.850 align:middle line:84%
providing very specific
examples about how

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one could describe the
images and graphs and charts

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and so forth.

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So in some cases, these examples
may be applicable to you,

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and I encourage people to
check that resource out.

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BRIANNA BLASER: Great, thanks
for sharing that, Terrill.

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Thanks, everybody,
for joining us.

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We'll be in touch.

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Have a good rest of your day.

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TERRILL THOMPSON:
Thanks, everyone.

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